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Shaak Ti, Clone Wars cartoon, and RotS deleted scene...

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by Order-66, Nov 18, 2005.

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  1. Order-66

    Order-66 Jedi Youngling

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    Forgive me if this has been asked and answered before, and if so, please lock the topic and send me to the appropriate thread...

    At the end of the Clone Wars cartoon, Shaak Ti and a couple other Jedi face off against Grievous as Grievous attempts to kidnap Palpatine. Grievous disposes of the other Jedi with little effort and then has Shaak Ti in a certain doom situation as the scene ends. When next we see her, she is tied up by some cables as Mace finds her and we see Grievous make his escape into the Coruscant sky with Palpatine as his hostage.

    Now, in the RotS DVD deleted scenes, Anakin and Obi-Wan are aboard Grievous's ship attempting a rescue of Palpatine when they come upon Grievous and some battle droids. In front of Grievous is Shaak Ti in an obvious prisoner/hostage situation. Words are exchanged and Grievous cold-bloodedly runs her through with what I assume is her own saber (or any of the other stolen ones he carries).

    So, my question is this: Was the original intent of Clone Wars to also show Shaak Ti being kidnapped WITH Palpatine so that when one watches the Clone Wars cartoon and then RotS, it is more seamless? And, was the removal of that scene from RotS done late in the game, thus forcing a quick re-do of Shaak Ti's last appearance in the Clone Wars cartoon?

    Obviously, it is no big deal, but it does make for another interesting piece of intended continuity if it had been originally planned that way. I do like the fact that it made Grievous look even more nasty and cruel than he appeared in the final cut of the film (not that he was a big teddy bear in the final cut, but you get my point).

    Thoughts?
     
  2. jangoisadrunk

    jangoisadrunk Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think as soon as Shaak Ti was cut out of those wires she hightailed it into space to rescue Palpatine herself. She fought GG, lost, and was killed in a very evil fashion. The way GG strokes her head before he kills her gives me the creeps.
     
  3. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    That does help explain why Shaak Ti, a character with so little previous screentime anywhere, is made so prominent in the last few CW episodes.
     
  4. Ellbobin

    Ellbobin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Cos EU gives fan favs and people who dont get much screen time a chance to be seen in all their glory!
     
  5. Blackout

    Blackout Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I get the feeling that by the time the cartoon was made, they'd already decided to drop the Invisible Hand sequence. The OS mentions the other death scene for her, at the hands of Anakin in the Jedi Temple, which was also dropped. The main databank page concludes her profile with "The temple was gutted with laser fire as agents of the newly proclaimed Emperor brought the "treasonous" Jedi to justice. Shaak Ti was believed to be killed in the onslaught."

    I'd hazard that the word 'believed' doesn't rule her out from upcoming EU material, but we'll see. If she is in any, she'll have cheated death three times :p Good girl!

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  6. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    She died aboard the Invisible Hand. The hologram we see of her later is her cousin, an homage to the Stass Allie/Adi Gallia and Agen Kolar/Eeth Koth debacles. In other words, don't worry about it. If you try to keep EU continuity straight, you will go crazy.
     
  7. JediMasterGuff

    JediMasterGuff Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I hope that's a joke.
     
  8. TheWookiee

    TheWookiee Jedi Youngling star 2

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    He copied it from SuperShadow, obviously! [face_laugh]
     
  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It is possible that, at some point, Shaak Ti was to have ended up aboard The Invisible Hand in Clone Wars (via capture) and LOE (via an attempt to board the IH), but revised upon the scenes removal. LOE in particular, IIRC, has a couple unnamed Jedi landing aboard the IH after chasing Grievous's ship into orbit, which could have easily been Shaak Ti and someone else. Might also explain the slight differences between CW and LOE's "Mace finds Shaak" scene, if they had to b patched on after the fact.
     
  10. ROTS_Obi1

    ROTS_Obi1 Jedi Master star 4

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    The Shaak Ti deleted scene was proven non-canon.
     
  11. galor4

    galor4 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yah, I think Shaak Ti's canonical death is her being slaughtered by Anakin in the Jedi Temple's meditation chamber when he raids the Temple.

    The deleted scene not only isn't in the movie, but it isn't canon.

    Mabye Shaak Ti was originally supposed to be guarding Palpatine so that she could be captured and be aboard the Invincible Hand... but when that scene was cut and made non-canonical, they changed it so that she is just defeated by Grevious, not killed.
     
  12. Hyperion51

    Hyperion51 Jedi Master star 3

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    Too bad that that is wrong.
     
  13. TheWookiee

    TheWookiee Jedi Youngling star 2

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    SuperShadow explanations aren't welcomed here.[face_laugh]
     
  14. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    the deleted scene is definitely not-canon cos if u think about it, it makes it look stupid when grievous meets the jedi for the first time in the cockpit of the ship if he had already encountered them before

    i really wish the shak ti death at the hands of vader had been put in as a deleted scene instead
     
  15. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

    Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sounds like an SS explanation to me. Anyway it's possible that Shaak Ti was at some point aboard the Invisible Hand but when Lucas re-wrote the script her death took place in the Jedi Temple [although we did not see this on screen].
     
  16. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The hologram Togruta is definitely not a "Stass/Agen" replacement. Originally it was going to be Shaak Ti's chair that Anakin would get, when her death was deleted the first time, they were instead going to give her chair to an EU character (Master Choi), but when they gave her a second death scene, they put her back in the chair, even though that was ultimately deleted.

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  17. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    I wish they would have kept in the death by Grievous scene. It took what? Five minutes? I could live with that! lol
    And, it would have given a very nice tie in to CW and LoE with Shaak Ti's role coming to a nice close.
     
  18. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It was sarcasm. I was making fun of EU retcons.
     
  19. Hyperion51

    Hyperion51 Jedi Master star 3

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    It was a cool scene. But it isn't canon. Her databank entry on the starwars databank confirm this. The ROTS novel also confirms that Shaak Ti is alive up until Vader attacks the Temple. This is backed up by seeing a hologram of her during a Council meeting. No this isn't some other Jedi of the same species, ala Stass Allie/Adi Gallia, or Eeth Koth/Agen Kolar, or Pablo-Jill/Coleman Kcaj.
     
  20. SBD-518

    SBD-518 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Yup. Vader killed her. The GG scene is EU. Blackout's evidence is conclusive, which i believe makes this discussion finished
     
  21. TheWookiee

    TheWookiee Jedi Youngling star 2

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    No. The GG scene is not canon period. Why would you call it EU anyway? The EU is canon, thus the GG scene could not be considered part of it.
     
  22. brook_33

    brook_33 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    They knew before the Clone Wars was finished that Shaak Ti would not be aboard the Invisible Hand. They knew, because Lucas filmed her being killed by Anakin later on in the movie. But they'd already had the script done and I believe they'd already started using her in the Clone Wars, which is why she remains Palpatine's security guard but is not captured by Grievous.

    Also, it's nice that she is a star in the clone wars because her appearance in the final cut of ROTS is only a brief shot of her sitting on the Jedi Council.
     
  23. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    It was a cool scene. But it isn't canon.

    I don't really see what that has to do with my post?
    I just said it would've been a cool scene and tied up Love Shaak's CW cartoon role up nicely.
    I don't believe I stated it was canon?
     
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