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Amph Sherlock - new BBC series from Steven Moffat

Discussion in 'Community' started by Mar17swgirl, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Very slightly disappointing. I was hoping for late summer, but autumn's not really much different. And I was starting to wonder if they were even going to be ready to film in January anyway. Gatiss said he'd finished his script in October, but we'd heard nothing about the others and it kind of seems like they're still working on Doctor Who... so yeah, much better to delay everything a couple months and do it right than rush it.

    Plus, my guess is that one or both of them will be busy doing some extra stuff for The Hobbit in January. I'm presuming that's the scheduling thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Star Trek Into Darkness also has some pickups.
     
  2. NYCitygurl

    NYCitygurl Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Slightly disappointing, but not surprising in the least. Good for Freeman and Cumberbatch that they're getting more in demand.
     
  3. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    LOL @ caedus. The thread is upped for news and he doesn't see it.
     
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  4. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    I'll just leave this here.:

     
  5. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Lightest....hyperlink....ever.
     
  6. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Yeah I admit, our default link color on xenforo doesn't stick out enough at all.


    Still, lol @ there actually being news and you missing it :p
     
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  7. Chewgumma

    Chewgumma Force Ghost star 7

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    I'm wondering if it's actually Benedict and Martin's schedules that are clashing or if it's Moffat's, given the other show he runs is supposed to be filming a certain celebratory episode early in 2013.
     
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  8. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Maybe a mix of the two?
     
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  9. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm sort of disappointed. I hope that PBS shows them soon after their BBC air date, but I doubt that'll happen.
     
  10. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Let's be honest, unless they show them same day, they're pretty much asking for piracy.
     
  11. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I just got into this show recently, great stuff. Considering the gap between the first two series, I'm not surprised at all by this announcement.
     
  12. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Which means it'll be summer of 2014 before it gets played in the states.
     
  13. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That seems the bigger let down, PBS probably won#t be airing them until early 2014 at this point.

    Unless, of course, you weren't planning on waiting that long anyway.[face_whistling]
     
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  14. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Well, is it still piracy when you download it right after it airs in the UK, because you don't want to wait (or, like me, you don't have a way to legally watch it), and when the BluRay/DVD comes out you buy it anyway? I don't see what's morally wrong with that. You still end up paying for it...
     
  15. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    PBS probably would (or the following Sunday) if BBC let them. :p
     
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  16. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    TV downloads are a tricky area. It's still technically piracy, but its never prosecuted. It's a particularly hard case to make when it airs on free public channels in both the US and UK. So it's free over the air.

    And yeah, I actually really hate piracy that takes money from someone. But yes, I buy each series on blu ray so from a moral standpoint I feel totally fine with it.

    And let's not forget that the PBS versions are edited. The artistic integrity of the show is also important, so even if it aired here the same day I would still download the unedited one.
     
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  17. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    IIRC they were edited down like two or three minutes. Yeah, annoying, but not really devastating.

    And it's not PBS's fault they need to list their sponsors either. Write to your Congressman and request that the CPB get more funding so it can be the sole sponsor of public broadcasting. :D
     
  18. Rebel_Padawan

    Rebel_Padawan Jedi Master star 4

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    So according to a tweet from Sue Vertue, the delay in filming to March is simply due to availability reasons and is not expected to affect any likely transmission dates.
     
  19. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Producer Sie Vertue confirmed the production delay, but says it shouldn't impact transmission dates. Hope it stays that way.

    As for the piracy discussion, Mar and I have discussed this, especially in the context of living in smaller countries. I'll have s longer post later when I'm on my laptop rather than iPhone.
     
  20. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm going to buy it on Blu Ray the day it comes out, so I don't plan on waiting. Although, didn't PBS do something with Downton Abbey that let people who donated a certain amount get a DVD to see the episodes before their air date? I'm pretty sure I overheard that last Sunday. Maybe they'll do something similar for Sherlock.
     
  21. Chewgumma

    Chewgumma Force Ghost star 7

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    But when are the likely transmission dates Sue? That's what we're all desperate to know! :_|
     
  22. AaylaSecurOWNED

    AaylaSecurOWNED Jedi Master star 6

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    BBC isn't technically free, there's a license fee. I actually really wish I could pay the license fee, or some kind of fee, and get full access to iPlayer even from outside the country. As it is, I just have a program that fakes a British IP so that I can watch it if I need to.

    I understand having a problem with piracy that takes money from people, and there are definitely cases where it's clear cut, but the line is also becoming more and more blurred as time goes by. I'd say with music it's still pretty obvious, but with TV and some movies it can be really hard to discern why or whether downloading is affecting anyone at all.
     
  23. Everton

    Everton Force Ghost star 10

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    I've no problem with downloading something that I'm going to buy anyway. Doctor Who, Sherlock, Downton Abbey. That all seems perfectly - if not above board - justifiable (even though they air here I like to have an electronic copy). Having said that, I do download TV shows that won't air here for ages after showing in the USA and don't ever look like getting a DVD / BR release. Korra is probably the best example.

    I saw an interview with Hugh Bonneville. He's made it a personal mission to talk about this as often as he can, I think. He knows how annoyed Downton Abbey fans in the States get that they show airs months after the UK premiere and wants desperately for the window to be closed. The only problem with his argument is that it seems to be based on the idea that you'll get a better quality experience watching it on TV than you would watching a download. Well, Hugh, 'illegal' HD downloads of TV shows are of a very high standard these days and in Downton's case allow people to watch without commercial breaks. That makes it a better experience.

    And yet there are so many people over here determined to see the licence fee as a terrible burden. [face_frustrated]
     
  24. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Yeah, I know there's a license fee. But I agree that I wish I could play it and get access to iPlayer. I would. I tried a VPN for a UK IP but couldn't get any connections fast enough to stream. It seems like the BBC would be able to make some money charging foreigners for the service.

    I didn't blame PBS. But considering that the stuff they cut (which was more like 5-7 minutes) was some of my favorite stuff and things I thought were great character scenes, yeah, it really does matter to me.
     
  25. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I would LOVE to pay the BBC license fee if it meant I would be able to legally watch it online here in Slovakia. Why the damn regional block?! If I were in the UK, I'd simply watch it on TV. Duh.