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Amph Sherlock - new BBC series from Steven Moffat

Discussion in 'Community' started by Mar17swgirl, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Juliet316

    Juliet316 SFTC March Tiemaster star 10

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    Thank you for breaking everybody else's brains with this.:(
     
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  2. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    What is wrong with you.
     
  3. Miana Kenobi

    Miana Kenobi Admin Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Tumblr is a dark and scary place. :(
     
  4. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    I'm quite glad to avoid it unless linked to something decent there... which is a rarity.
     
  5. NYCitygurl

    NYCitygurl Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    My eeeeyyyyeeeessss!

    I agree with yankee. Hound was okay, but it wan't nearly as good as the other episodes of series 2. Which won't stop me from watching it a million times :p
     
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  6. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In other news, Vinnie Jones was awesome in Elementary.
     
  7. Miana Kenobi

    Miana Kenobi Admin Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I kinda want to watch Elementary but feel like I'd be cheating on Sherlock.
     
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  8. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I only saw the pilot and it was so bland and boring that I decided not to waste my time watching the rest of it.
     
  9. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    Ugh, hal, I regret to inform you that you are dead to me. Don't give in, Rachel. I saw the pilot at Comic Con, and it couldn't even hold my attention for one episode. It's not a Sherlock Holmes show. It's literally just another boring, unintelligent CSI edition that they slapped some famous character names on. I can't imagine two more boring portrayals of interesting people than Miller and Liu give.
     
  10. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Chris and I most emphatically agree with Rachel on this issue!!!
     
  11. yankee8255

    yankee8255 Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    More than anything, my loathing of Lucy Liu makes it a certainty that I'll never watch.
     
  12. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Force Ghost star 8

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    I saw a little bit of the episode with Vinnie Jones, but he didn't seem to be talking at all which made me sad so I stopped watching.
     
  13. Miana Kenobi

    Miana Kenobi Admin Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Which one? :(
     
  14. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    If anything the Sherlock in Elementary more resembles Dr. House than the source material. I haven't watched much, but I hear it gets better after the first episodes.
     
  15. Juliet316

    Juliet316 SFTC March Tiemaster star 10

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    And wasn't House based off of the Sherlock Holmes mythos in the first place?
     
  16. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    Yes, I think that was his point. But at least House is played by Hugh Laurie who can make the character interesting and entertaining in spite of how boring and formulaic the show itself is.
     
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  17. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If your reasoning for not watching Elementary is "It's not as good as Sherlock", then your reasoning is flawed.

    I don't look on it as "Sherlock Holmes". I look on it as a detective show where the lead character has serious flaws. And on that premise, I find it quite engaging. Miller is superb, and the stories are well-written.

    Plus it's always good to see Aidan Quinn.
     
  18. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Seeing as I posted it immediately after sj's post (which I also liked), I thought it was obvious that I meant her. But yeah, I probably should've used her username. :p

    Then why call the main characters "Holmes" and "Watson", if they bear no resemblance to the original characters at all? (And this has nothing to do with their decision to make Watson female. In fact, I would've preferred a version in which BOTH Sherlock and Watson are women, if it was well-written and well-acted. At least that wouldn't have looked like a blatant copy of "Sherlock".)
     
  19. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    No, my reasoning for not watching Elementary is that it's not a good show, period. It's the same reason I don't watch CSI, NCIS... any of the other generic, awful CBS crime shows. It's really boring and cliche and aimed at people who are 60 years old and only want to see the same stories over and over. It's not at all interesting to me and it's not very good writing or acting. It has nothing to do with my feelings about Sherlock. I've been lambasting CSI for many years prior to them starting a Baker Street edition of it.
     
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  20. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You are of course entitled to your opinion. But I don't think that you can say " it's not a good show, period", "It's really boring and cliche and aimed at people who are 60 years old and only want to see the same stories over and over", or "it's not very good writing or acting" after just one episode.

    But it's your call. Doesn't bother me in the slightest if others don't want to watch it, or give it a fair chance. :)
     
  21. Lugija

    Lugija Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The differences between Sherlock and Elementary can be shown just by looking at how they are being distributed in my country:

    Sherlock: Named "New Sherlock", played on a commercial-free government-owned channel with BBC stuff like Poirot, Marple and HBO series
    Elementary: Named "Holmes NYC", played on a channel with american series, commercials, reality-tv and lifestyle shows

    EDIT: No, I can't do this judging before seeing. It begins tomorrow, I'm going to watch at least the first episode.
     
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  22. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    The whole point of CBS procedurals is that the episodes are all basically the same as every crime procedural they've ever done. Because their viewership doesn't like change, they don't like to be challenged and they certainly don't want a show that focuses on characters. The Good Wife is the only exception to this on CBS for twenty years. I know CBS and how its execs work more than well enough to know that I would absolutely loathe watching any more than I already did.
     
  23. Narutakikun

    Narutakikun Jedi Knight star 4

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    Heresy here:

    I've seen Elementary. It's actually a pretty good show. If it wasn't for Sherlock, everybody would be saying that it was worth watching.
     
  24. solojones

    solojones Chosen One star 9

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    Why? No one says that about CSI. For good reason.
     
  25. Narutakikun

    Narutakikun Jedi Knight star 4

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    Good, interesting performances from Holmes, Watson, and the always-enjoyable Aidan Quinn, better-than-average writing and storylines, intriguing take on the Holmes mythos.
     
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