Full Series Should Barriss Return in Rebels?

No. Little miss strawman should have been executed for poorly thought out terrorism.

 

Even if Barriss was sentenced to death, if the death row waits on Coruscant are anything like those in the USA then theoretically they might not have gotten around to the actual execution even by the time of the OT era. Maybe not even by the battle of Endor.

 

Well, if there is one thing we have learned from TCW (where did that thread go). Republic prisons are pretty worthless at actually keeping inmates, ya know, in. Cad Bane has escaped atleast twice. Force users are harder to contain and Commander Fox's boys just fail at everything they do.

 

I think the reason why this is so is rather clear: Commander Fox is a shiny!

Just take a look at his armor, compared to Rex's:


Looks much 'shinier' to me.

 

^Hah, we have had some fun captioning that picture.

 

So... I know that Star Wars fandom has this weird unique thing about huge fan cults developing around really minor characters (paging Mr. Fett...), but what's the big deal with Barriss, anyway? People get really worked up about her. I don't get it.

 

From what I've seen, there appears to be a major subset of fans who read... probably rather more than was intended, into the exact nature of Barriss and Ahsoka's, erm, relationship.

If you don't know what I mean, run a google image search for Barriss and Ahsoka. But if you're at work, make sure safesearch is set to the max.

Much of the raeg over Barriss' face-heel turn probably originates with that lot. Eventually, it detached from its origin and spread to the wider fandom.

 

No, I think most of the rage probably stems from the fact that Barriss was last in a speaking role three and a half seasons ago, and she was always (TCW and otherwise) as a peaceful Jedi. I don't think it has anything to do with the Ahsoka/Barriss shippers, at all, and all to do with the lack of context and logic in Barriss jump in characterisation. Oh, and also because the show's director came out and said basically, 'hey, yeah, you're not going to like who the terrorist is because it doesn't really make sense and is for shock value.'

That's just my two cents, though.

 

I never really cared for Barriss. She was a pretty dull character as a Jedi and the twist about her being responsible for bombing the temple felt like it was done purely for shock value.

I want to see the real bad girls of the Clone Wars brought back for Rebels. It would be interesting to see what Ventress is up to now that the Empire has taken over. Mandalore is begging for a follow up with Bo-Katan rebelling against Almec's faction and the revelation of her being Satine's sister. Mother Talzin's storyline with Darth Maul also needs closure. And Aurra Sing? She's just too awesome.

 

Pretty much this. Much of the annoyance at Barriss' change of character comes from how completely out of nowhere it truly is. If they'd at least set things up properly in a way that respected Barriss' character as well as the audience's intelligence, it may have been an easier pill to swallow.

Also, I think most of the Barriss/Ahsoka shipping stuff is more done in humor than anything else.

 

I'll outright state that I never cared for Barriss and always found her to be both annoying and uninteresting. Yet as others have pointed out her character arc came completely out of nowhere. There was no buildup or real logic to it.

 

I think the biggest sin of all was Luminara being NOWHERE to be found.

 

It's almost as if they're were like, "yeah, ****, we can't work out a way she can be in this episode and it can somehow maintain what little sense it has", so they simple pretended she didn't exist.

 

I'm not sure I understand this complaint about Barriss. We're complaining that her betrayal came out of the blue with no warning? Well yeah - it won't be a very effective betrayal if it doesn't, will it? What did we want her to do - walk around for a few episodes with a sign around her neck saying: "Disgruntled: May Plant Bomb Soon"?

 

I would love to see Barriss return as a Dark Jedi in the employ of Sidious. It would be awesome if it happens and Palpy explains that with her actions she tried to rebel against the "evil Jedi".

 

As opposed to...well thought-out terrorism? I think you just explained in the most succinct way possible what is wrong with all the complaints about her rationalization for her actions not being sufficient. There's really no such thing as well thought-out terrorism. People who do things like that in real life as well as fiction typically have very poor rationales.

 

9/11 was simultaneously well thought out and poorly thought out.

It was well thought out in that it went off near-perfectly. They managed to take over planes and hit the WTC and Pentagon, bring down the towers and kill thousands of Americans. (Ironically, the flight that crashed in Pennsylvania could possibly have been the most destabilizing for the country if it had reached its target... thought to be the Capitol. Congress was in session at the time, and could have been mostly wiped out in its entirety if a 757 had come diving through the dome.)

It was poorly thought out in that America went berserk, invaded Afghanistan, invaded Iraq, Saddam ended up hung, Bin Laden ended up shot in the head... It's like they didn't think of the repercussions.

 

How the heck did we get to this dark corner... after talking about Barriss in "Rebels"...

 

Wait - so which was the part that was destabilizing and damaging to the country? The part where they tried to kill all of Congress, or the part where they missed?

 

If they'd managed to kill all of congress, that would have been more destabilizing than knocking down the Twin Towers, or trashing one-fifth of the Pentagon.

When people think of 9/11 they always think of the World Trade Center. And even if the Capitol was also hit, people would still think of the WTC when they think of 9/11. Because of the sheer horrific spectacle of it. The planes hitting the towers. The towers burning. People jumping to their deaths. The towers collapsing. And all of it recorded on video from multiple angles, and disseminated across the world's TV networks, and later on the internet.

In the general public consciousness, the WTC is the face of the 9/11 attack. But it's actually the run on the Capitol that could theoretically have done the most damage to the country, had it succeeded.