Should city reps be given mod powers in their own forums?

Discussion in 'FanForce Communications' started by Sebulba2179, Dec 30, 2002.

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  1. Sebulba2179 Force Ghost

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    I only ask 'cuz there has been a spot of trouble in USA - Northeast with a couple of problem posters. It doesn't seem to help a whole lot when the entire FF, city rep included, tells said posters to cool their jets--which is the limit to what they can do. Since the CRs tend to be on the forum more often than the RSA, I'm not saying it must be done, but I'm only asking if it might help.
  2. Dark_Jedi_Kam Jedi Grand Master

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    I believe that they can't limit the mod powers to a specific forum.
  3. Woofer Jedi Master

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    It should almost be a FAQ.

    The way this forum software is written if you are given mod capabilities, you have that capability over every forum.

    There is no way to set an option for a person to have mod capability for a limited set of forums.

    And before the "But...?" questions show up, its already been answered as well. Every option has been looked at it and the current arrangement with RSA mods/CR VIPs is what works the best, considering all the factors.
  4. TK7771 Jedi Master

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    It would be nice.But I think Dark_Jedi_Kam is right.It's probably not doable.To bad tho,it would be useful for both the Chapters and the RSA's.
  5. Sar-Tamber-lac Force Ghost

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    Trust the RSA's, we must. ;)
  6. RidingMyCarousel Force Ghost

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    Woofer is right. Unlike other message board software, such as phpBB, YaBB and more, you can't set moderator permissions here for just one board. While it would be a nice addition to the board code, the chances of it ever happening are slim to none, since IGN is very touchy about what code is added and such to their board system.

    And the heirarchy works out pretty well for FanForce. If there's a problem in a FanForce and a certain City Rep's RSA isn't online, the problem could always be pointed out by the City Rep in the City Rep forum or members of the FanForce could bring it up here and the next available RSA could handle the problem. :)
  7. TK7771 Jedi Master

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    I trust 'em.Strawbary and Rox have always helped when needed.

    But Sebulba2179 is right.Sometimes when you need,say a thread locked quickly,and a RSA isn't on,it would be nice to be able to do it in your own forum.Doesn't have to be banning powers,but being able to lock or even edit something in your own forum that shouldn't be there.

    Plus,just think of all the help it would give 'em,they have enough things to worry about around here.
  8. Rani Veko Jedi Master

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    Would be nice, but not possible for the reasons already mentioned.

    I have yet to see a time of day when there are absolutely no RSAs online. With DarthAsabrush in the UK and Shara_82 in Australia, plus a lot of other RSAs around the world, you can usually find *someone* who can assist with that sort of problem after the North American RSAs have gone beddie-bye. :)

    - Rani
  9. Mara_Jade_Fan Jedi Grand Master

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    Unfortunately it is not doable - at this time. When I was a City Rep, that was my biggest gripe... the fact that I would have to PM someone in another state or across the country, to handle a problem in my own backyard.
  10. Sebulba2179 Force Ghost

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    Well, it was a nice thought.

    And thus MJF brings up my next question: Do the other RSAs consider it appropriate to hack problems outside of their region? Say, we've got a spam or trolling problem in the Northeast and we can only get hold of a different RSA. Would it be within reason to ask them to take care of it?
  11. DarthJurist Admin Emeritus

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    If there is a problem in your local forum and you can't get ahold of your local RSA, any other RSA will be happy to help. I've personally helped with a few situations outside the Midwest, but only when I receive a request from the CR or another member (usually via PM).

    If the problem involves a clear-cut violation of the TOS, such as posting porn or swearing, etc, other RSA's will deal with it as necessary and notify the local RSA/CR to let them know what's going on. HOWEVER, if there is a more borderline problem such as general troublemaking or borderline flames that really require the mods to know the people and forum, the RSA may decline to take action and leave an alert for the RSA via PM or in the OFH.

    Although it's rare, if you can't find an RSA/GSA online, feel free to contact any JC mod/manager/admin for help with an immediate problem (ie, porn, swearing, etc).

    ~H~
  12. Mara_Jade_Fan Jedi Grand Master

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    Sure Sebulba, if you have a troll or something that needs taken care of immediately, go to the "Users online" link located in the "Terms of Service" and if your RSA isn't online, find any other moderator/admin to deal with it for you immediately. I often get PMd by people outside my region to deal with a problem if their RSA isn't online at the time. Today I was PMd from Germany. :D
  13. Obey Wann Former RMFF CR & SW Region RSA

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    What MJF and DJ said. ^^^


    It is unfortunate that CR's can't be given mod powers in their forum, but there are usually enough mods/RSA's/GSA's online to take care of any emergencies.

    And I never had any problems if any other mod/RSA/GSA modded in my forums in my absence. In fact, I was relieved [face_love] , as it meant that I could talke time off the 'net to enjoy Real Life and not be constantly worrying if something was happening online. [face_love] :X

    If I was ever so uber-concerned about what was happening if I was taking time off, or had to go to sleep or whatever, then I'd usually check with another RSA in a different time zone and ask them to keep an eye on that specific forum.

    It's called teamwork, and we've got a good team here. [face_love] :D
  14. Obey Wann Former RMFF CR & SW Region RSA

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    ED: Darn double posting, slow work computers. [face_plain]
  15. Auraveda Jedi Master

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    Unlike other message board software, such as phpBB, YaBB and more, you can't set moderator permissions here for just one board.


    Interesting. I have seen several good suggestions made in the last few months about ways to improve the boards and invariably someone posts a response saying that the current board software can't do that, and somebody named Zerosomething would have to be hired to fix it. And that Satan would likely be investing in a snowblower before that happened.

    Perhaps the JC should consider migrating to a superior message board software that is more customizable is isn't maintained by a single elusive individual.
  16. Night4554 Jedi Grand Master

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    While that would be a nice bit, I haven't heard of a software that could handle a board this size. Every one I know of lags incredibly when it gets up into these numbers.

    There's also the problem about how we could export the user database, or posts/threads, and all that nice stuff.

    ¤Night
  17. Auraveda Jedi Master

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  18. Ki-Bara-Mundi Force Ghost

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    And since TFN is an IGN affiliate I get the feeling their obliged to use these boards.
  19. Night4554 Jedi Grand Master

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    I actually don't think so. But, I'm not sure.

    ¤Night
  20. Hama Retired GSA, Retired RSA

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    IGN lets us use these boards for free. If you can find somewhere with better software at a better price, we're all ears. ;)
  21. TheGrandePoobah Jedi Master

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    While that would be a nice bit, I haven't heard of a software that could handle a board this size. Every one I know of lags incredibly when it gets up into these numbers.

    There's also the problem about how we could export the user database, or posts/threads, and all that nice stuff.


    Oh, I'm confident that given a little time and inducement I (or anyone else with some programming and database know-how) could probably interface with or adapt/convert the back-end.

    As for performance issues, I haven't taken a look at other boards much, content to write my own software for our group's website.
  22. strawbary Syracuse CR, RSA Emeritus

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    You know your local RSA could be online 8 hrs a day and when they log off for that lunch time break or RL break wouldnt ya know something always happens ;) LOL

    I do agree as well that if someone is having a problem in any region and their RSA is not online any manager should be able to help.

    I havent been aware of any real major problems in the NE I think all the CR's in the NE region have looked after their forums pretty well. ;)

  23. Jedi_Satimber Jedi Grand Master

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    this is a very valid point, and I would vote for it...and approve of it.
  24. Night4554 Jedi Grand Master

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    Oh, I'm confident that given a little time and inducement I (or anyone else with some programming and database know-how) could probably interface with or adapt/convert the back-end.

    Oh I know that we could tranfer the data with a fair amount of elbow grease (and lots of Find/Replace commands), but we simply don't have access to the database, or even viewing a dump of the data.

    ¤Night
  25. TheGrandePoobah Jedi Master

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    Okay, that is a problem.
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