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Should GL edit Maul's death?

Discussion in 'The Phantom Menace' started by poker, Mar 30, 2005.

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  1. poker

    poker Jedi Youngling star 3

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    The fight, prior to Maul's death, is awesome and I don't want GL to change it.

    But I always hated the way Maul is killed by Obi Wan. He just watch him and let Obiwan cut him in half. Its so anti-climatic!

    You have one of the fastest lightsaber fighter ever in Maul. Kenobi has the time to force jump, back flip, take his master blade, land, and cut Maul in half and MAUL DOES NOTHING. He just watches!

    It would have been better if Kenobi cut him in half while in the air. Or make Maul block the first saber strike! I don't know but anything would be better than this.

    Anyone agree?
     
  2. Wally44

    Wally44 Jedi Master star 2

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    I agree that it would have been pretty cool if Obi cut him in half on the way down. That would have been impressive, most impressive. However, I think Maul was just kind of shocked that Obi had the strength to jump out of the pit and didn't think he could have done anything even if he landed behind him. He was wrong.
     
  3. Latorski

    Latorski Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, I'd like to have seen Obi-Wan slice him on the way up or way down, not after he landed.
     
  4. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I think it's kind of cool that Obi-Wan seems to get superior power through the use of the light side. It makes you want to be a good guy :D



    Obi-Wan Kenobi - mightier than Aslan
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  5. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I always assumed that Maul did nothing because he had forgotten about Qui-Gon's lightsaber. He did nothing because he was expecting Obi-Wan to use some other attack than a lightsaber.
     
  6. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    :eek: Never thought of that one! Good thinking, Strilo =D=



    Strilo is clever
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  7. michaelbacca

    michaelbacca Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Good point Strilo. That makes more sense than what I always thought. I always thought that Obi-Wan just got lucky.
     
  8. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    His overconfidence was his weakness.
     
  9. Sith-Jedi-Master

    Sith-Jedi-Master Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maul was really shocked...at obi wan getting out of the pit and the fact that he got Qui Gon lightsaber...
    :)
     
  10. rechedelphar

    rechedelphar Jedi Master star 6

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    Yeah he just stands weak
     
  11. Darth_Devilkin

    Darth_Devilkin Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Should GL edit Maul's death?

    **** no!
     
  12. MrC123

    MrC123 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think Maul just kind of watched because he was in shock. I mean, Obi basically flung himself out off of nothing. I don't think Maul believed the Lightside could be so powerful, and was just kind of like, "How the hell did he do that?"

    EDIT: Still, maybe he should have at least attempted to defend himself, but I'm not sure if he knew that Obi grabbed Qui-gon's lightsaber while he was flying through the air.
     
  13. Deeysew

    Deeysew Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Should have been FASTER, MORE INTENSE, IMO
     
  14. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Smarty pants. :p

    I always raise an eyebrow at that scene myself, but I just calmly tell myself that Obi Wan is moving faster than Maul can react and that the Force is on Obi Wan's side.
     
  15. Harabec

    Harabec Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He should edit it so that Obi-Wan says, "Sorry, gotta split."

    Zing!
     
  16. ObiWanIsTheOne

    ObiWanIsTheOne Jedi Youngling star 2

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    No its fine the way it is. Although I wish there was more to the duel itself. Maul and Obi are amazing duelists. To see them fight at the speed was awesome. There is sufficient reasons as to why Maul reacted the way he did.
     
  17. Master_Starwalker

    Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I've always liked Maul's death (take that how you will)
     
  18. poker

    poker Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I always assumed that Maul did nothing because he had forgotten about Qui-Gon's lightsaber. He did nothing because he was expecting Obi-Wan to use some other attack than a lightsaber.

    He's more stupid than I though.

    Doesn't he hear the sound of the saber while ObiWan lights it up in the air? He can't see the blade either?

    ObiWan should slice in while in the air, it would have worked better.
     
  19. anakin_skywalker_sct

    anakin_skywalker_sct Jedi Master star 5

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    I was confused by this too, but I'd buy Strilo's argument. After all, Qui-Gon's sabre was focused on quite specifically, and Maul stood rigid like preparing to block a force-push or physical strike. Fair enough, really.
     
  20. Deeysew

    Deeysew Jedi Youngling star 4

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    After RotS is abandoned, i think GL will redo this part in CG.

    Ewan's stunt double hanging from a wire and a few quick edits just wont look as good next to the amazing things he's done and is going to do in the rest of the films.

    My thoughts.
     
  21. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Every villain in Star Wars has a lame death. Maul is no different. It's a part of the legacy. Tarkin is killed by an explosion. Boba Fett is killed because a blind man hits him with a stick. Jabba the Hutt is killed because a half nekkid slave girl chokes him to death with her own chains. Palpatine is thrown into a reactor shaft. Admiral Piett crashes into the Death Star II. Jango's decapitated. Maul is chopped in half while staring at Obi-Wan.
     
  22. Sitara

    Sitara Jedi Master star 3

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    Yes, but they need to explain why the heck Maul had turned his lightsaber _OFF_ at the exact point in time that obi-wan leapt out of the pit. THAT was the most retarded point of all. He keeps his saber on to make sparks, but when obi jumps, he turns it off??
    (pause the scene where obi leaps and you clearly see maul's saber is off).

    IMO, I would like the scene to be edited to that Padme, who sees whats going on via vid screen, sends a re-programmed droideka desroyer droid to help obi-wan. The droid pours out a barrage of bolts, Maul turns and deflects (oh and btw, it would also be nice to see a Sith deflect bolts with his crimson saber for once!) and perhaps leaps using the force to slice up the droideka while deflecting its bolts back at it in midair.

    During this time obi-wan jumps out, and jumps after maul, Maul turns and gets sliced in half...obi-wan force pushes remains into the pit. end of story.

    It is doable via cgi; only around a months work I would say, though it will require Ray Park to suit back up for a scene or two.

     
  23. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Maul's saber turns off when he falls into the pit.



    Pits - some are deep, some are shallow
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  24. poker

    poker Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Jabba the Hutt is killed because a half nekkid slave girl chokes him to death with her own chains

    THAT'S HOW I WANT TO DIE!
     
  25. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    IMO, I would like the scene to be edited to that Padme, who sees whats going on via vid screen, sends a re-programmed droideka desroyer droid to help obi-wan. The droid pours out a barrage of bolts, Maul turns and deflects (oh and btw, it would also be nice to see a Sith deflect bolts with his crimson saber for once!) and perhaps leaps using the force to slice up the droideka while deflecting its bolts back at it in midair.

    During this time obi-wan jumps out, and jumps after maul, Maul turns and gets sliced in half...obi-wan force pushes remains into the pit. end of story.


    That would slow things down in the wrong moment, IMO.
    Maul's death is much more unexpected and comes out of a suprise the way it is in the movie- both for the Sith and the audience. If I hadn't already known what's going to happen I would have been very suprised by Obi Wan suddenly getting the upper hand in this situation. It was still very thrilling.
     
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