Should John Williams have won the Oscar?

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  1. Jaina02 Jedi Knight

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    In my opinion, yes. As much as I love the FOTR score, I honestly think that the Harry Potter Soundtrack was incredible. What are your thoughts?
  2. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus

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    The Academy Sucks Hard.


    Williams should have won. Cheap ******* Academy Awards :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



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  3. Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus

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    It is a hard choice. I thought both scores were awesome. I think FOTR had the better score though. So, I think it was accurate in my opinion.
  4. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    The Harry Potter score? It had no chance. If Williams had won, it should have been for A.I. But I think the right movie won this award.
  5. GasCabbie Jedi Master

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    I am dissapointed by FOTR over AI for music. Dissapointed, but not surprised. I am glad he was nominated, though.
  6. Well_Of_Souls Jedi Grand Master

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    A.I. was screwed on all accounts tonight.
  7. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    Yeah, I do think A.I. should have won Visual Effects and should have gotten more nominations.
  8. jamesdrax Jedi Grand Master

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    I knew the John Williams Society would cry foul once again. ;)

    LotR was a spectacular score! Howard Shore most certainly deserved it. I was actually anticipating Harry Potter to win but I wasn't 100% confident that it actually would win.

    Kudos to the Academy for making the right choice for once!

    :D :D :D
  9. Errant_Venture Manager Emeritus

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    That's what i'm saying. Shore definatlly deserved it! It was an awesome score, and Williams can't win everything.
  10. TwiLekJedi Pretty Ex-Mod

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    John Williams is my God!

    But Howard Shore abolutely deserved the little golden man, imho.

    :)
  11. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    Yup I agree here.

    Harry Potter: fun and good, but in the end it is rehash of E.T. meets Hook

    A.I.: Amazing and truly creative for Williams and every bit as deserving of the Oscar

    LOTR: FOTR: Wonderful, epic and creative and should have won so we can recognize and elevate some up and coming greatness!!!

    :D
  12. Basil_Hennington Jedi Master

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    yup, as much as I love Williams he has won before and I thought it was cool to give it to shore.

    anyway, I liked Lotr better then harry potter.
  13. Son of the Suns Administrator Emeritus

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    Anyone thinking the Academy has something against Williams should start paying attention. The man has won five times and has been nominated over 40 times. He even got to conduct the orchestra on the show tonight and his montage of film scores from the past was one of the show's highlights. Yes, it would've been nice if he had won again, but don't say that he's been ignored.

    BTW, I have no problem with Howard Shore winning. Now if only the film had won more...
  14. jamesdrax Jedi Grand Master

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    It would have also been nice if James Horner won for A Beautiful Mind. I don't care what most Anti-Horner folks say, that score was literally... "beautiful".

    :D
  15. Mar17swgirl Chosen One

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    A Beautiful Mind had a truly beautiful score, I must agree with that.

    And no matter how much I admire John Williams (he's a genius), I think that LOTR deserved the Oscar in music. Shore's score is stunning, amazing, brilliant. I totally love it.

    It was either LOTR or A.I., but I'm glad LOTR won it. :) After all, Williams already has multiple Oscars for his masterpieces... ;)
  16. Jedi-Finney Force Ghost

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    i was actually hopeing that LOTR would win best score... i bet if JW did LOTR it would have beed a million times better though, but indeed, harry potter and AI are both good scores, and i think that a beutiful mind is a very good score as well... it was actually hard for me to decide wich to p;ick, i like them all!!! but lotr is my fav out of all of those nominated...
  17. halibut Chosen One

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    I found the LotR score instantly forgettable.

    But we knew JW wasn't going to win, cos he was conducting the orchestra. Who would have conducted when he went up to collect?

    If I was him, out of protest, I would have played the theme from Harry Potter when Howard went up to collect the award
  18. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    "i bet if JW did LOTR it would have beed a million times better though"

    What, like the Harry Potter score? [face_plain]
  19. halibut Chosen One

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    Leonard Rosenmann could have done a better job of the FotR score
  20. Well_Of_Souls Jedi Grand Master

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    I bet part of the reason Williams lost for both was because the vote was split between A.I. and Harry Potter.

    I'm just miffed that A.I. wasn't nominated for more.
  21. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    That's assuming that anyone voted for Harry Potter... I would certainly hope that not many did.
  22. Gregatron Jedi Knight

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    Well, ANH won the Oscar. ESB and ROTJ were nominated. TPM...well...

    Maybe AOTC will be nominated next year.


    I *LOVE* Howard Shore's score for The Fly (1986). I'm glad he won.
  23. Jaina02 Jedi Knight

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    What do you have against the Harry Potter score? It was wonderfully done! He did EXACTLY what was needed for the film. They needed a magical score and he gave it to them! It fit the movie so perfectly whereas LOTR was good, but it didn't fit as perfect as Harry Potter did.
  24. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    It overused the main theme, especially in the movie's opening scenes. It was often overdramatic, notably in the chess scene. And for the most part it wasn't particularly creative. It sounded similar to lots of other stuff Williams has done. I'm not saying it was a bad score, but it was far from Oscar-worthy. My views on the score are probably colored by my fairly negative opinion of the movie itself.
  25. Strilo Manager Emeritus

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    It was good. But it was also E.T. meets Hook. Been there done that. A.I. was MUCH more creative and interesting and DEFINATE Oscar material. I still say the oscar went to the right score here. I cannot imagine many parts of the LOTR film without Shore's amazing score. Imagine the Bridge at Khazad Dum sequence without the driving action music and male vocals. Impossible.
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