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Lit Should Star Wars authors refrain from doing Romances?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by tylrkrby, Jul 29, 2013.

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  1. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Most seem to fall pretty flat even by Matt Stover who I love..... but god even the ROTS novelization had some cringe worthy Padmakin dialogue.
     
  2. zark

    zark Jedi Master star 4

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    All Padmakin dialogue is terrible.

    And no. Whether it is well done or not, that is a part of human storytelling. They shouldn't insert romance for the sake of romance, but it shouldn't be cut out completely either.

    I personally am a fan of the Corran/Mirax story, and don't think their stories would have felt near as driven without that relationship.
     
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  3. Bardan_Jusik

    Bardan_Jusik Mand'alor - Manager of EUC, SWC and Anthology star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    MOVING TO LIT
     
  4. jedimaster203

    jedimaster203 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Romances are a definite part of story telling, especially when you have a character-driven motivation. It shouldn't be avoided, it should just be, ya know, better written.
     
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  5. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Don't get me wrong I love a good romance in star wars but I guess my point is that should they focus on their strengths which for many of them isn't romance......Corran/Mirax is a good example of that but for most it seems like they focus less on the REALISM of alot of relationships (trial and error, break ups, cheating) instead focusing on "the ONE true love" who they see across the room or they have relationships but none of them are as good as the first 30 seconds of looking into that other persons eyes.....they then fill said love with lots of iffy dialogue.
     
  6. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Corran/Mirax was good, and I also enjoyed Kell/Tyria. The absolute best romance was Anakin/Tahiri, though; Jaina/Jag are a close second. Jacen/Tenel Ka can't compare, and Ben/Vestara started out good until they ruined it in Apocalypse.
     
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  7. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Jaina/Jag?! god no I hated that one....considering the fact Jag had the emotional depth of a rock. Anakin/Tahiri was ok to me but I felt it was forced sometimes and plain ruined in LOTF mine hands down is(and I know you guys'll prob hate me) Revan/Bastila from KOTOR
     
  8. Falcon

    Falcon Chosen One star 10

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    No they should not get away from romances then there would be no kids to pass the torch too ;)

    Han and Leia's romance was my favorite, with Luke and Mara's a close second

    Anakin and Padme's romance life was the best define during the clone wars series.
     
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  9. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, different strokes for different folks. I related to Jaina/Jag far better than Jaina/Zekk, because I actually approved of Jag as a character (especially in the Enemy Lines duology). Anakin/Tahiri was wonderful, definitely not forced, especially in Keyes' novels. It felt completely natural. LOTF did bad things to Tahiri, but it can't mar what happened between her and Anakin. Revan and Bastila was good when Bastila wasn't being a snooty, stuck-up brat. I especially liked Revan redeeming Bastila through their love on the Star Forge.
     
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  10. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    definitely and I'd like it if they did some one shots or novellas on character relationships, first dates, first kisses, dinner and a show you get me with the younger folks (jaina, tahiri, zekk, jacen) or some novellas showing snapshots of the older characters romances(leia\han, luke/mara, mirax\corran) its little things like that which help give the galaxy a more personal touch because they often get caught up in these huge sweeping events
     
  11. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What appealed to you about jag? i always thought he was kinda stereotypical for Jaina ya know (she's hotheaded, he's calm and collected, she's republic, he's remnant) and thanks btw for not yelling whenever i tell people i loved Revan\Bastila they freak out lol
     
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    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    how so? i never watched it cause i hate ashoka with a passion.
     
  13. Falcon

    Falcon Chosen One star 10

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    Anakin's affection towards Padme was sweet and passonate, and they showed him being a very devoted husband to her meeting her whim and need. They also touched base on his jealous side where he leaves Padme's ex-boyfriend or fiance in the hands of the enemy during a mission.

    They asked Padme to deliberately rekindle her love for her ex- which she was against in the first place. Anakin stuck his foot in his mouth and managed to push it down further with every other sentence which only made Padme angry and agree to go. Anakin rigged the back with a visual holo recorder to make sure they don't get within kissing distance. Broke one of the straps on the transport which only caused Padme to glare at Anakin.

    Anakin just left the man there with the security from the separatists closing in on them.

    Anakin took jealousy to a whole new level.

    I loved how they defined their relationship to each other.

    The Clone Wars series was awesome, you missed out big time.
     
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  14. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    See now that was good storytelling, it seems to be the character I wanted Anakin to be (Hero,Lover, Jedi) with the lurking darkness that was just beneath the surface of his soon to be crispy ass
     
  15. Falcon

    Falcon Chosen One star 10

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    Like I said the Clone Wars series defined the characters far better then the movies. If you ever get the chance, you should watch all five seasons.

    Near the end of the fifth season, they really outdid themselves with the story telling. It was epic.
     
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  16. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    I like Anakin/Padme in AOTC, TCW and the first part of ROTS as well as in the AOTC novelization and in Labyrinth of Evil. Yeah, some of the dialogue was awkward but that was the point. Stover didn't do as well with them though.

    I love Han/Leia pretty much everywhere they appear. I also love Anakin/Tahiri.

    I can't stand Luke/Mara, as in their scenes set my teeth on edge.

    No, Star Wars writers shouldn't be forbidden from writing romance, although I don't think it should ever be the focus of the story.
     
  17. Falcon

    Falcon Chosen One star 10

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    It's a shame they didn't have someone write the dialogue that was more familiar with the characters.

    But you also have to realize Anakin was slowly swirling towards the darkside at this point and Palpatine using Padme in the scenario was the clincher. I wonder how things would've turned out if someone else wrote the story. We'll never know...
     
  18. _Catherine_

    _Catherine_ Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Star Wars authors should write nothing but romances.
     
  19. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah you're right. That's a good idea, If they're bad at romance, keep it to a minimum focus on your strengths, I don't mind that so long as they make the rest of the book good.
     
  20. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Didn't they end up bringing back Maul though?! I don't know if I could stand seeing that.
     
  21. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    tylrkrby , I can't stand Ahsoka either but TCW does have some good episodes.
     
  22. Falcon

    Falcon Chosen One star 10

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    yeah but not in the way anyone was expecting. It fit really well in with how the Dathomir witches use the Force and it helped define the night sisters. A little far fetched but awesome and boy was Palpatine not pleased. It was really intense near the end.

    You really really really missed out on a great series.
     
  23. tylrkrby

    tylrkrby Jedi Youngling star 1

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    One word. FANFICTION
     
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  24. Falcon

    Falcon Chosen One star 10

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    I've written a lot of fanfiction in my time newbie but it still doesn't hurt to wonder if another author had written the story on how it would've turned out for the movie.

    Welcome to the boards. There is an edit button for about half an hour to an hour depending on which forum it is. Otherwise it will be considered spamming.
     
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  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Is it a stereotype? Yes, but it's a stereotype that works.
     
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