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Sidious's plan: Getting rid of Padme

Discussion in 'Revenge of the Sith' started by MasterDraco, Nov 26, 2005.

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  1. MasterDraco

    MasterDraco Jedi Youngling

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    Sidious offered the power "he knew" to stop Padme from dying, Anakin falls for it thinking that Sidious has this power. When he pledges to the Sith, Sidious doesn't knowo_O . By lying to Anakin about this power got him to turn=D=. But I think Sidious did this because he wanted to get rid of the one person who might've been able to turn Anakin back: Padme:_|. With the Jedi gone and Padme dead, Anakin/Vader was his. (Until ROTJ)

    What do you think?
     
  2. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Padme would gum up the works. After Anakin turned, she would be dealt with in due time.
     
  3. MasterDraco

    MasterDraco Jedi Youngling

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    Maybe, but if Padme turned him back like Luke did, it could've happened.
     
  4. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Well i don't think he knew Anakin would be responsible for killing her. but i agree there was no room for Sith Wives. Padme was destined to die. But telling Anakin that was a Ploy to get him onside . Palps knew that Anakin's fear for Padme would be the perfect way to ensure that Anakin would not let the Jedi destroy him.
     
  5. darth_frared

    darth_frared Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    i'm always sure that padme was meant to be rid off after anakin turned. that he has a hand in it himself is all too convenient for sid.
     
  6. DUGGY

    DUGGY Jedi Youngling star 4

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    well since TPM she has been walking around with a Bullseye on her forehead.
     
  7. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    but if sidious kills her what would he tell vader ??lets say vader survives mustafar unspoiled i seriously doubt sidious would want a fight or vader to think he was stabbed in the back.if he kills padme then he better have the best scape goat he can come up with
     
  8. LadyZaraMarta

    LadyZaraMarta Jedi Master star 5

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    Sidious is the grand puppet master. No doubt, Skywalker confided in Palpatine of his love for Amidala. Sidious used Anakin's feelings for Padme to help turn him to the Dark Side. Sidious knew little Ani's history - he used it.

    In the deleted scenes, Palpatine was raising doubt about Padme in Skywalker's mind.

    Anakin was afraid of losing what he believed belonged to him. He lost his mother - now he was in danger of losing Padme.

    That's not love.

    If you recall, in Return of the Jedi, when Luke asked Leia about her mother, Leia replied her mother died when she was young, but she did had memories. In the book, it mentioned Leia remembering her mother holding her and hiding in a trunk/crate.

    So, originally Padme DID LIVE a little longer .

    Padme was a danger to the Empire. One way or another she would have died. Sidious would have seen to that.
     
  9. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    actually is called self centered love or selfish love but IT IS love nontheless
     
  10. LadyZaraMarta

    LadyZaraMarta Jedi Master star 5

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    It's not the type of love to base a marriage or any healthy relationship.

    That was Skywalker's trouble. He was a very selfish individual, who brought ruin to himself and everyone.

     
  11. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    thats the whole point.not only anakin was like that,if padme's love for him was a healthy kind of love then she wouldnt have died only because of anakin's turn.she was just as attached to anakin as anakin was to her
     
  12. LadyZaraMarta

    LadyZaraMarta Jedi Master star 5

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    As Padme said, in AOTC - she couldn't explain why she loved him.

    What if Anakin used his abilities to heighten Padme's feelings for him.

    True, he said his abilities work on only the weak minded, but what if he lied??? He is powerful. He wanted Padme so much, I could see him doing that- but we are moving away from the original subject of this thread.
     
  13. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i think that to say that he used his powers to make her love him is way too much[face_talk_hand] the guy is not THAT sick and desgusting i think he deserves a little of more credit than you are giving him


    and i agree we are waaaay off topic



    PS: didnt mean to sound harsh[face_peace]
     
  14. LadyZaraMarta

    LadyZaraMarta Jedi Master star 5

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    You don't sound harsh at all Sithrules- no problem.

    Padme's time was limited. She was a danger to Sidious new Empire.He probably found it quite delightful to inform his new apprentice that he was the cause of Amidala's demise.
     
  15. Droid

    Droid Jedi Master star 1

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    probably? You must have missed the ear to ear grin that that Sidious had on his face when he saw how Vader reacted to the news of Padme's death.
     
  16. MasterDraco

    MasterDraco Jedi Youngling

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    Sidious's diabolical plan was complete: Vader was his, and only his.
     
  17. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Classic Trilogy Trivia Host star 5 VIP - Game Host

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    but if sidious kills her what would he tell vader ??

    Sids never does his own dirty work. He would have someone else do it in a cleverly disguised scheme.
     
  18. mjerome3

    mjerome3 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Sidious definetly wanted Padme dead to insure Vader would remain trapped. Without any loved one's, Vader couldn't tie himself to Anakin Skywalker. This is why he wanted her dead.
     
  19. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sidious would manipulate Vader into killing Padme. Or barring that, he'd have her killed by proxy. An assassin or bounty hunter. Or this time, Palpatine himself does it.
     
  20. ulien

    ulien Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Padme would die the first time Vader would get angry of her
     
  21. theBluePhoenix

    theBluePhoenix Jedi Master star 3

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    That?s an idea that I posted a while ago. Once Anakin turns, Padme MUST die. If she is alive then Anakin has something good to live for. If she is dead then all he has is Palpatine and he has no reason to leave his side.
     
  22. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    exactly what i think
     
  23. theBluePhoenix

    theBluePhoenix Jedi Master star 3

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    ^I believe that is exactly what happened in ROTS. Even if you choose to believe that she died of a ?broken heart?:rolleyes: (which is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard) Anakin/Vader was the cause. Therefore Vader killed Padme.
     
  24. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    i do not "chose to believe " that she died of a broken heart...because i know she did.the medical droid says she is completely healthy then she is completely healthy.

    kill someone and cause someone's death is not exactly the same...he didnt do it with his hands.

    so no from my POV he didnt kill her..she did it herself by not accepting that anakin was gone.
     
  25. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yep, she died because she lost the will to live.

    This was ridiculous IMO, considering she had just given birth. It would've been far better if she'd died from the force choke. Would've made Vader even more evil and Padme a bit less lame.
     
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