PT Sifo-Dyas doesn't get enough cred!

Alright, so I understand that if he hadn't ordered the Clone Army, then the Empire wouldn't have had near the power. However, he kept blowing the trumpet by saying, "Dark times are a comin'!"

Unfortunately, the JC is a little to slow to respond, so SD has to take it into his own hands. I think he deserves more credit that what he gets. Heck, he saw it coming down the pike.

That's all I got.

*Drops mic on the floor like a boss*

Sifo-Dyas was a paranoid puppet, and Darth Plagueis played him like a violin.

I must not be reading enough EU crap to understand what this opening posts means.

I thought Dooku was the one who played Dyas, but I haven't read the Plagueis novel yet.

Explain..

Unless the movies imply otherwise, I'll still take that Sifo Dyas was the name of a dead Jedi Master that Dooku (Darth Tyranus) used as an alias to order the Clone Army.

Obi-Wan knew of both Dooku and Sifo Dyas. This was established in AOTC.

I never said otherwise.

Not at all what I meant by played. Played=used/manipulated.

In the book(s) Sidious master Plagueis fooled Sifo Dyas into building the clone army, he even payed for it with Darth Plagueis money. Then I guess DooKu was pals with Sifo and to prove his loyalty to the dark side Sidious had Dukoo mangle Sifo and they used his blood to make General Grevious.

I know. I'm only giving my take on the matter, based on what the movie tells us.

Oh ok.

I just finished Darth Plagueis and Sifo-Dyas impressed me more than anyone else in the novel. His foresight was not only impressive but very believable.

Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas as a Sith initiation ritual and to shut him up.

I've known that for a good while now.

Since January 2005, in fact.

I'm not really well versed on the EU, but I don't think I like the idea of Plageus having anything to do with the clone army. I always pictured Plageus to have been someone Palpatine killed a long time ago as a younger man. That makes more sense to me.

As a disclaimer, my Star Wars opinions are always formed by what I see on screen. So they may differ from those who take the EU into account. I tend to focus on the on screen stuff.

A lot of people were pretty shocked when Darth Plagueis came out, to see how late Plagueis survived.

In the movie alone, Palpatine doesn't even state that he was Plagueis's apprentice- that was entirely the book.

The movie doesn't state it outright in dialogue, but it is definitely the impression they wanted to give us. Just the way McDiarmid played it, it was like he was reliving it in his mind. The sense of evil that comes off of him in that scene was incredible. Subtle, but powerful at the same time. The guy is so talented.