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PT Sifo-Dyas doesn't get enough cred!

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Pearlsaber, Jan 31, 2013.

  1. Pearlsaber

    Pearlsaber Jedi Master star 4

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    Alright, so I understand that if he hadn't ordered the Clone Army, then the Empire wouldn't have had near the power. However, he kept blowing the trumpet by saying, "Dark times are a comin'!"

    Unfortunately, the JC is a little to slow to respond, so SD has to take it into his own hands. I think he deserves more credit that what he gets. Heck, he saw it coming down the pike.

    That's all I got.

    *Drops mic on the floor like a boss* :p
     
  2. Vialco

    Vialco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sifo-Dyas was a paranoid puppet, and Darth Plagueis played him like a violin.
     
  3. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent 2017 Celebrity Deathpool Winner star 10

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    I must not be reading enough EU crap to understand what this opening posts means. [face_dunno]
     
  4. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I thought Dooku was the one who played Dyas, but I haven't read the Plagueis novel yet.
     
  5. Pearlsaber

    Pearlsaber Jedi Master star 4

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    [face_thinking] Explain..
     
  6. Alexrd

    Alexrd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Unless the movies imply otherwise, I'll still take that Sifo Dyas was the name of a dead Jedi Master that Dooku (Darth Tyranus) used as an alias to order the Clone Army.
     
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  7. DarthRelaxus

    DarthRelaxus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Obi-Wan knew of both Dooku and Sifo Dyas. This was established in AOTC.
     
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  8. Alexrd

    Alexrd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I never said otherwise.
     
  9. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Not at all what I meant by played. Played=used/manipulated.
     
  10. Darth kRud

    Darth kRud Jedi Knight star 3

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    In the book(s) Sidious master Plagueis fooled Sifo Dyas into building the clone army, he even payed for it with Darth Plagueis money. Then I guess DooKu was pals with Sifo and to prove his loyalty to the dark side Sidious had Dukoo mangle Sifo and they used his blood to make General Grevious.
     
  11. Alexrd

    Alexrd Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I know. I'm only giving my take on the matter, based on what the movie tells us.
     
  12. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Oh ok.
     
  13. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Force Ghost star 6

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    I just finished Darth Plagueis and Sifo-Dyas impressed me more than anyone else in the novel. His foresight was not only impressive but very believable.
     
  14. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas as a Sith initiation ritual and to shut him up.
     
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  15. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I've known that for a good while now.
     
  16. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Since January 2005, in fact.
     
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  17. Placeholder

    Placeholder Jedi Knight star 4

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    I'm not really well versed on the EU, but I don't think I like the idea of Plageus having anything to do with the clone army. I always pictured Plageus to have been someone Palpatine killed a long time ago as a younger man. That makes more sense to me.
     
  18. Placeholder

    Placeholder Jedi Knight star 4

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    As a disclaimer, my Star Wars opinions are always formed by what I see on screen. So they may differ from those who take the EU into account. I tend to focus on the on screen stuff.
     
  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Force Ghost star 8

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    A lot of people were pretty shocked when Darth Plagueis came out, to see how late Plagueis survived.

    In the movie alone, Palpatine doesn't even state that he was Plagueis's apprentice- that was entirely the book.
     
  20. Placeholder

    Placeholder Jedi Knight star 4

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    The movie doesn't state it outright in dialogue, but it is definitely the impression they wanted to give us. Just the way McDiarmid played it, it was like he was reliving it in his mind. The sense of evil that comes off of him in that scene was incredible. Subtle, but powerful at the same time. The guy is so talented.
     
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