PT Sifo-Dyas doesn't get enough cred!

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Pearlsaber, Jan 31, 2013.

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  1. Pearlsaber Jedi Grand Master

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    Alright, so I understand that if he hadn't ordered the Clone Army, then the Empire wouldn't have had near the power. However, he kept blowing the trumpet by saying, "Dark times are a comin'!"

    Unfortunately, the JC is a little to slow to respond, so SD has to take it into his own hands. I think he deserves more credit that what he gets. Heck, he saw it coming down the pike.

    That's all I got.

    *Drops mic on the floor like a boss* :p
  2. Vialco Force Ghost

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    Sifo-Dyas was a paranoid puppet, and Darth Plagueis played him like a violin.
  3. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    I must not be reading enough EU crap to understand what this opening posts means. [face_dunno]
  4. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    I thought Dooku was the one who played Dyas, but I haven't read the Plagueis novel yet.
  5. Pearlsaber Jedi Grand Master

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    [face_thinking] Explain..
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  6. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    Unless the movies imply otherwise, I'll still take that Sifo Dyas was the name of a dead Jedi Master that Dooku (Darth Tyranus) used as an alias to order the Clone Army.
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  7. DarthRelaxus Chosen One

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    Obi-Wan knew of both Dooku and Sifo Dyas. This was established in AOTC.
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  8. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    I never said otherwise.
  9. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    Not at all what I meant by played. Played=used/manipulated.
  10. Darth kRud Jedi Grand Master

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    In the book(s) Sidious master Plagueis fooled Sifo Dyas into building the clone army, he even payed for it with Darth Plagueis money. Then I guess DooKu was pals with Sifo and to prove his loyalty to the dark side Sidious had Dukoo mangle Sifo and they used his blood to make General Grevious.
  11. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    I know. I'm only giving my take on the matter, based on what the movie tells us.
  12. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    Oh ok.
  13. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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    I just finished Darth Plagueis and Sifo-Dyas impressed me more than anyone else in the novel. His foresight was not only impressive but very believable.
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  14. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Dooku killed Sifo-Dyas as a Sith initiation ritual and to shut him up.
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  15. rumsmuggler Chosen One

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    I've known that for a good while now.
  16. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Since January 2005, in fact.
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  17. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I'm not really well versed on the EU, but I don't think I like the idea of Plageus having anything to do with the clone army. I always pictured Plageus to have been someone Palpatine killed a long time ago as a younger man. That makes more sense to me.
  18. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    As a disclaimer, my Star Wars opinions are always formed by what I see on screen. So they may differ from those who take the EU into account. I tend to focus on the on screen stuff.
  19. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    A lot of people were pretty shocked when Darth Plagueis came out, to see how late Plagueis survived.

    In the movie alone, Palpatine doesn't even state that he was Plagueis's apprentice- that was entirely the book.
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  20. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    The movie doesn't state it outright in dialogue, but it is definitely the impression they wanted to give us. Just the way McDiarmid played it, it was like he was reliving it in his mind. The sense of evil that comes off of him in that scene was incredible. Subtle, but powerful at the same time. The guy is so talented.
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