Simplicity #4450 Help, Please

I recently bought Simplicity pattern #4450, but I don't understand what the pictures are showing, or what they mean. Could someone please post a picture of the tunic, so I can see what the front of it looks like? And what would I have to do to the tunic pattern to make the inner tunic, as the thing on the inside is, I believe, the dickey. Just shorten and tighten the sleeves? And finally, what is the so-called "shoulder armor"? Would that be the obi, or sash-looking thing?

 

i suggest using the simplicity patterns as a guideline--check out the tutorials here and on other sites to have a more customized jedi tunic--i used the 5840 for mine and i didn;t really follow their directions-the reason why is because the seem of the sleeves did not start at the shoulders but about 2-4 inches below the shoulder-like in the picture-which i didn't like so i had to bring it up and take it in---if you want check out my thread "making first costume" and see what i did with the tunic, tabbards, and obi--no inner tunic for me though--i totally disregarded the 5840 suggestions concerning the obi and tabbards--i am not sure about the 4450 (some say it is much better than 5840) but if it is really confusing the heck out of you, i suggest that you do your "own" thing--any questions i would be more than happy to help

darthlrrp

 

It's not really that confusing. And I'm not really going for a spot-on match. Just something that looks close to an old republic Jedi outfit. Like the seams and stuff. I don't care much where they are.

 

What they are calling "shoulder armor" are the tabards. There should also be some sort of obi, or sash pattern, as well.

For the inner tunic, as well as making it shorter and the sleeves tighter, you also want to make the sleeves longer too, so you can push them up and they will bunch up on your forearms a bit.

 

i purchased this pattern a while ago and made it almost exactly to the pattern only modifying it for length, beciase im 6'6" and it obviously would look stupid if i didnt lengthen it, i think it looks amazing, but i wasnt going for a screen accurate design, anyways, here are some pictures, sorry for not having any pictures without the cloak on, if needed, just PM me and i can dig it out and take some more pictures
[image=http://home.earthlink.net/~juggalogigolo/costume2.jpg]
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Nice Job!

 

thank you, my mother did most of the sewing, as im a 23 year old man, and dont know much about sewing techniques other than stiching with a needle and thread. But i love the way it turned out, which i suppose mostly has to do with the fact that the fabric itself cost over 200 dollars. Either way i love wearing the costume, so if anyone needs more pictures or different directions ill be more than happy to have an excuse to put it back on

 

I used the same pattern as a basis for my Anakin ROTS costume. It's really not that complicated. Just needs a good over-looking and you can see what needs to be changed. That is, if you want to change it. Here are a couple of my pics, and also a couple of my bro. in-law. He used the newer pattern for his Obi-Wan Kenobi costume. I don't beleive he made any modifications on it.
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And one of my wife in her Padme costume.
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Ok, so I put 2... can you blame me??

 

i can't blame you either weemansith-- it is really great that your wife is into what you are into--my wife was so excited when my tunic was complete that she felt left out and she is making her own rendition of "her" jedi for an upcoming costume party we are hosting

**sorry to go a bit off topic yugi3045 **


dl

 

Great pics guys! But I would like to have pictures of the separate parts that are labeled, to see what they look like, like the tunic and tabbards. So what is an obi?

 

tabbards are the parts that come up from the back, over your shoulders and down the front to a length below the tunic (how long is your judgement).

the obi is the material piece that wraps around your waist. on mine, i attatched the tabbards to the obi in the back near the bottom. the angles that they need to be attatched depends on your shoulder width. you will obviously need help with this. as the tabbards hang down the front, they tuck beneath the obi. my obi aslso has ties that wrap around my waist, which is no big deal because the belt covers it.

one word of warning, though. be careful of the sizing of the items. when i had my costume and my son's made, the sizes were huge and had to be altered. good luck.

for alternatives to the obi and tabbards in the pattern you bought, check out this website for some other ideas, as well as any of the other websites listed in other threads here.

http://www.rebellegion.com/jedigarb/

 

I have made mine based solely on the 4450 pattern. I did away with the dickie thing, though. It is awkward and unconfortable. Instead I used the same pattern from the tunic, but made it sleaveless, shorter and with the front pieces wider. I attached strings that wrap around my waist. That way I get the tighter closed inner tunic. Sorry I don't have a picture without the cloak. I attached the tabbards(the "armour") with a few stitches at the shoulders to the tunic. Sorry for the bad picture, but that's all I have.
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I would have to agree that the pattern can definitely be confusing at times.
The worse part is the "tuck" where the shoulder and the sleeve meet. That's why the arm piece and the arm cut-out are straight instead of the usual curved. Look at the pieces and match the circles up. That's where that tuck happens. My friend had to show me. I had no idea what the stupid instructions were trying to do at that point.

 

Here's mine that I used the Simplicity patern 4450 for. I too did away with the dickie and instead opted for a modified shirt I already had at home. Not quite the neck height I wanted, but I think it works fine.

[image=http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a124/DarthWormie/costume1a.jpg]

 

nice DarthWormie, i went with a mock turtle neck instead of a "dickey"--i see that your outer tunic has a lining--was that part of the 4450 instructions?? anyway this is me in my Jedi clothes--the only things that were sewn were the outer tunic, obi, and tabbards--

[image=http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b307/darthlrrp/Grey-Jedi2ps.jpg]

DL

 

Originally I was going to make an undershirt from scratch. About halfway through I decided I didn't like where it was going, so I scrapped it and went "semi-homemade" At first I was going to go with a mock-turtleneck as well, but I ended up finding my 'final' undershirt hiding in the back of my closet.

Although it looks like it in the picture, there is no lining on this. What you see (the sleeve, right?) is just where the hem on the cuff meets the back side of my fabric. I went with a textured cotton that I found in the Upholstery section of a local fabric store. It's not that 'cotton gauze' texture from the movies, but it has a nice feel to it.

 

yugi3045--my bro liked my jedi costme so much that he gave me 30 bucks and told me to have a go at it--i am going to try this one myslef with no help--so i went out and bought a 4450 simplicity pattern--got it at joann fabrics for $1.99--yes that is correct $1.99--they are having a big veterans day sale--so if anyone wants $1.99 patterns now you know where to go-anyway i was thinking about going to post the results on my thread "making first costume" but there is some typeof voodoo curse on that thread because hardly anyone comments on it anyway just thought i would let you know yugi3045 and tell you how it went for me--wish me luck

DL

 

I made this costume twice last month for two friends who are big "mannly" men. I used heavier woven fabrics for the tunics and a cotton for the dicky. They turned out pretty well, although I think the boys did get hot. I did not line either of the tunics.
[image=http://www.dinochick.com/SVP/SVP05%20127.jpg]

 

It never ceases to amaze me how one pattern can turn out so many variations on a theme. Different fabric, color, lengths, etc. it all changes the final outcome to be something quite unique for each person. I guess that's why I love costuming, the variety is endless, but still we can all see OUR JEDI or what ever character we choose to be.

Man is that one tall Anakin weemansith. You and your wife and bro-in-law look fabulous. I love the Sith red room too.

 

I also made this pattern, I made Anakin. Hopefully I can post some pics of just the separate parts later on. I wore it on Halloween and just happened to come across a house of two married star wars freaks. They both complamented me and asked me where I got it... they were certainly amazed when I said it was homemade! They really liked my leather tabbards.

 

Okay, here are those pics I said I'd get: (Note- pics look shiny, but they're not.)
Here's the tunic:

And here is one of the tabbards and the obi:

And last but not least, the cloak(I chose a light side Anakin):

Okay, something's not working. I'll have to get back to it.