CT So are the stormtroopers clones or what ??

I have not seen star WARs rebels yet and was realy wondering about this ??
Are they clones and if so they must have been cloned from a different host.

Any thoughts on this ?!

 

In the AOTC commentary, I'm told that Lucas specifically said that he put the Jango-bumped-head scene in as a nod to the scene where a clone in ANH bumps his head - strongly implying that this particular trooper was a Jango clone.

So, whatever Rebels says - some Jango clones must still exist at the time of ANH.

 

Ok but what does rebel say? Im mean are they clones With a different host or what ?

 

Are they clones? No

Have a quick search there are a number of threads about this

 

Or at least, the vast majority of ANH-era stormtroopers are not clones.

 

The early stormtroopers were the clone troopers from the Clone Wars. After the Galactic Republic became the Empire, the clone troopers became the first Imperial troopers. I wouldn't be surprised there were still clones as stormtroopers. But other people were later added to the various ranks and whatnot in the Imperial military.

 

The stormtrooper corps in the OT is a mix of clones (both from Jango and from other sources) and raw recruits.

 

There are different theories here but I was actualy wondering about the official cannon ?

I was under the impression that the stormtroopers were clones from a different host.

 

Depends how official you consider Lucas DVD commentary, and info from Filoni about Rebels.

 

Lucas DVD commentary is difficult.

Sometimes he is giving us additional information and explanation, but other moments he seems to be rabbiting on and massively contradicting what we're witnessing on the screen.

Back to the thread...Stormtroopers are not clones; "elite" fighters (apparently)

 

Are Stormtroopers clones in canon? No. Do I personally think that the Stormtroopers are clones? Yes.

 

There's no way to know for sure without taking EU into account
One could easily assume that there are still plenty of Fett clones who simply do not have speaking roles, Unidentifed Head-Bumping Stormtrooper being one

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper

By 0 BBY, roughly one-third of the stormtroopers were clones based on the Fett template, while recruits steadily became the majority within the Stormtrooper Corps.

 

Yup. Filoni may be changing that with Rebels though.

 

Which way? Less Clones, more Clones?

 

Less, if you go by these quotes:

 

Less sounds good to me

 

So I guess Lama Su lied when he mentioned that the clones are 100% obedient
Huh

 

I like the suggestion that 1/3 of the Stormtroopers in the OT are Jango clones. In TCW, many of the clones on Kamino were still fetuses. Even with growth acceleration, they should still be capable of being in service 20 years later unless the Emperor had them terminated or something.

He said that?

 

Jedi_Apprentice

 

Got it. I took the 100% thing as being verbatim.

I think it's fair to say that the Kaminoans overestimated the abilities of the clones. Not their efficiency in battle, but their uniqueness. Perhaps in theory (and just as with identical twins on Earth), while the clones' genetics may be completely the same, with the most desirable traits selected by the Kaminoans, their personalities still depend on other factors. Of course, clones would be a bit different, but perhaps the same holds true just as with identical twins.

In any case, it makes sense for the Empire to discontinue the production of clones once the war is over. Perhaps whoever was left of their ranks, as well as volunatry recruits, would have been enough to keep the Empire afloat thereafter.

 

Part of that is that the Clonetroopers did things outside the box, as shown when a group of washouts managed to work together in order to be put in the field. Then those who went against Pong Krell's orders which lead to a conflict. And then we know that not every Jedi was killed, some of them wound up not turning on their assigned Jedi.

 

Contradicts everything seen in the movies and the Clone Wars TV show, especially the episode where the malfunctioning clone kills a Jedi.

 

They're still individualistic in the TV show - it's just that the chip overrides their free will when Order 66 is given.

The very first episode - Ambush:

Yoda: "Your faces I wish to see."
Clone: "There's not much to look at, sir. We all share the same face."
Yoda: "Deceive you eyes can. In the Force, very different each of you are."

And in later episodes there's a clone deserter, and a clone who sides with the Separatists and betrays the Republic.

 

Some are normal soldiers, some are clones from varying genetic templates, only the 501st legion (Darth Vaders personal troopers) are from the original Template of Jango Fett