Lit So I guess we have a multiverse of sorts?

Sex, Gender, and orientation.

They are different.

 

I mean Dark Jaina but you know what I meant.

Snoke is obviously male but a female antagonist would be interesting and isn't something Star Wars does often.

 

Star Wars hasn't often done a female anything. Until Disney that is.

Leia & Padme are the only female major characters in 6 films.

 

Iirc, Snoke was female in some of the concept art.

 

The EU had plenty of strong female characters-Mara, Leia, Jaina, Barriss, Bastila, Lumiya etc... To its credit.

 

No I meant Jaina literally is Emperor. (I wrote Emperor in the sense that even when she's female, she's like the RL Japanese Emperors, I think they always referred to themselves as Emperors than Empress (Though I may be wrong, of course).

Regarding strong female characters in SW, don't forget Nomi and Vima Sunrider.

 

For every point they gained in gender diversity, they lost by having the grand total of like five POCs.

 

That's somewhat accurate to U.S. demographics though right?

 

To have Luke's first class be 10 white people and two aliens (iirc) is not at all accurate to U.S. demographics. Let alone the two PoCs in the entire OT, basically.

 

I meant in a dark side sense-a dark Jaina sitting on a throne is an interesting LOTF AU. But I know what you mean.

 

I'm responding to comradepitrovsky's comments.

Well think of it as all about the money and you'll understand.

Back in the day the African Americans (and yes, they are called African Americans back in the day, so I'll refer to them as African Americans for this post) are probably busy fighting for economic and political equality and face it, when you are busy working and everything else RL staring at you 24/7, in the 80' and the 90's, the ones going to the movies and buying the books are probably overwhelmingly Caucasians, relatively speaking.

 

Back in the day of 2000?

 

. . . so, the reason it's okay that there are few PoCs in the EU is that your made up statistics say only white people watch Star Wars?

 

Would anyone like Infinity novels? What if Vader had overthrown the emperor? What if Mara killed Luke? What if the Daragon twins never reached Sith space?

I would.

 

Anakin Solo lives past SBS.

 

I am sure that would be a popular one with quite a few EU fans.

 

I want a continuation of the RotJ Infinity story. How would the Empire react to Vader defecting? I could see the Rebellion being legitimized in the eyes of many Imperials. One of the more interesting things I see happening are the Inquisitors hopping ship. What would the Rebel Jedi think?

 

Lando and who's the other?

 

I shudder at the idea of the Inquisitors trying to fit in with the Rebels.

 

An Rebel pilot in ROTJ, who gets blown up early in the battle - Legends introduced his name: Grizz Frix - and the newcanon kept it:

http://www.starwars.com/databank/rebel-pilots-biography-gallery

 

Yep. All two of them, in the entire galaxy, apparently.

 

I kind of liked the idea of the Empire being sexist white supremacists that was in the old EU. Really emphasized their villainy-ness.

 

I always hated the idea, for two main reasons.

A) It limits their recruitment. The Empire already limits their armed forces to being only human. If they further limit that to humans of one race and one gender, it makes you wonder how they got all those soldiers in the first place.

B) It seems too on the nose and too mustache twirling, like it's them being evil just to give the audience another reason to hate the militaristic Nazi inspired dictatorship that blows up planets.

This conversation came up in another thread and I gave the examples of Harry Potter and Animorphs. In Harry Potter the Death Eaters hate Muggles and witches/wizards with Muggle blood. It's a pretty clear parallel to real world bigotry. But if on top of that the Death Eaters thought only white, male wizards should be able to practice magic, the symbolism would be more ham fisted. In Animorphs the Andalites started off as the "good guy" aliens our heroes looked up too. Over time it was revealed the Andalites had some severe flaws: arrogance, looking down on other species, sexism. This was good development, disillusioning our heroes. Then another book revealed that the Andalites hate the disabled . . . which dosn't make sense anyways when they have technology that heals most wounds. It's good to have heroes/villains with flaws, but when you pile on the flaws it just seems cartoonish.

Mixing Real World Prejudices with Allegorical Prejudices becomes messy. I'd prefer the Empire to not care what kind of human you are as long as you're not a space alien. Or to quote Discworld "Black and White lived in harmony and ganged up on Green".

 

Well maybe majority of GFFA human males loves the Imperial policies?
and most of the human females in GFFA loves staying at home?
Because Star Wars?

in Legends

 

You made a lot of good practical points, but one thing that has surprised me is that people with a lot of hate in them will do everything possible to show that hate, even if it is completely detrimental to their own goals. So even though the Empire, from a practical point, has so much to lose from banning "inferior" species etc., the prejudiced Imperial military higher-ups will do it anyway because they hate these "inferior" species so much, even though they know full well this undermines and weakens their military.

I think this came up in another thread where I discussed how Tarkin has no logical reason to blow up Alderaan when there are whole armies of people there he can interrogate (Bail Organa and his people, etc.) to find the Rebel base, Rebel secrets etc. And I felt there was no logical reason from the Empire's standpoint to do this. Another poster pointed out to me that Tarkin was likely so overcome with hatred against Alderaanians, Rebels, etc that he blew them up even though he knew full well doing so would impede his hunt for the Rebel base. He just has to kill them, he hates them so much.