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Lit So I guess we have a multiverse of sorts?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Yunzabit, Aug 15, 2017.

  1. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I am, if I may say so, very much a representative of 'the gaming community'. And you are doing it right. ;)
     
  2. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So why can't we have our what if novels and legends continuations? I would pay triple the price.
     
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  3. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    I don't know if you've read the Rogue One novelization, but there was a mention of a planet that was involved with the Death Star in the Death Star novel. I forget the name of the planet, but when I saw the mention, I immediately thought about Legends being bought into canon a little bit. :)
     
  4. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    That would be Horuz, which in Legends is more commonly known as Despayre. I would love to figure out a way to reconcile the Death Star novel with Rogue One.


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  5. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Master star 4

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    Well the Death Star novel itself was already trying to reconcile the early Legends lore about the Death Star's construction with how it was shown in the prequels.
     
  6. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Death Star in Legends is unfortunately one of Legends failures in how convoluted it was. Though it was successfully retconned and fit together for the most part.

    Palpatine probably should have put those credits into extra SSDs and Galaxy guns.

    But that's just my opinion.
     
  7. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    The Empire disagrees with you. The Empire isn't about practicality. If the Empire was, DS-1 would've had a whole fleet of destroyers protecting it. If the Empire was, there would've been fifty thousand TIEs at Yavin.
     
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  8. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Funny you mention that. The main plot for the Darth Vader comic was that Vader had to take orders from Grand General Tagge, who thought that the money from the Death Star should have gone to more Star Destroyers and SSDs.
     
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  9. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Legends shows you can make super weapons that aren't insanely expensive with not-too-hard to find vulnerabilities. Galaxy guns, Centerpoint stations, and sun crushers among biological weapons etc...

    Han was right about the empire wasting time and resources on grandiose vanity projects like the Death Star. Imagine a fleet of ten thousand sun crushers? 1 million Galaxy guns, 500,000 world devastators, and ten times many SSDs. That would be a far more fearsome empire.
     
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  10. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    That would make a terrible story though.

    I mean, the galaxy gun, singular, was a major threat that was defeated basically through blind luck and terrible imperial engineering.

    The Sun Crusher is an objectively stupid overpowered behemoth that had to be destroyed by the pilot literally flying into a blackhole.

    The World Devestators were, admittedly, pretty cool, but also could literally generate their own defense fleets as they scorched planets.

    Fighting an empire on that scale would just make an awful story.
     
  11. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Didn't the eclipse crash into the Death Star as a result of Artoo manipulating it?

    It would be implausible of course to have a story against such an overpowered empire but say maybe a fanfic AU where a Dark Luke has just recently slain Palpatine or Vader and is about to wage full scar war against the Chiss or maybe entire unknown regions or something.

    Having him or somebody point out an empire with such a complement would be a good way to end a story like that-giving the reader the impression of a near invincible empire.
     
  12. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    The Eclipse II crashed into the Galaxy Gun when it was about to fire and that blast ultimately destroyed Byss or something.
     
  13. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yeah it's destruction was some sort of fiasco.

    But I think an empire with say 50,000 sub crushers, 1,000,000,000 Galaxy guns, ands 200,000 SSDs is a far more mighty empire.
     
  14. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Why would anyone ever need that many of anything. The upkeep and construction costs would turn the entire galaxy to stardust just to get the minerals necessary. It is physically impossible in the Star Wars universe.
     
  15. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Gargantuan amounts of Dreadnoughts and Superlasers are just as impractical and wasteful as the Death Star. If I was Emperor I'd commission SSDs as spearheads of each Armada, and have smaller Dreadnoughts and Battlecruisers for the smaller formations. A few Galaxy Guns would be plenty enough to keep the peace. The Navy is what requires investment, if conquest is the agenda. 1 million Galaxy Guns is insane. Only a few are required. While 200,000 Dreadnoughts sounds exciting, a more flexible Navy is required. Mid size SDs are surely what the Empire needs. Stuff between an Imperial and an Executor. I say keep it balanced.
     
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  16. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I guess your right the upkeep would extremely expensive. And there wouldn't be any enemy forces necessary for such use.

    What if say your writing a Star Wars/Warhammer 40K fanfic under the parameters I described then under such conditions would it be necessary?
     
  17. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    No.

    Because there is never a need to Exterminatus every single planet.
     
  18. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Dang I would hope not. Maybe if the Rakghouls really got out of hand, Superlasers would be required in the dozens. The galaxy would surely not come out pretty.
     
  19. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    If I were the Emperor here's my plans.

    Invest in a two spaarti calendars. Use for cloning myself. Put in different planets for backup purposes. The clones will be my heirs. This policy is broacast by holonet and by flimsi. Every one of my loyal subjects must know this policy.

    Kill Vader. No need for apprentice.

    Get rid of Stormtrooper armor except for the helmets.

    No palace on Coruscant. The Executor is my mobile palace. Except it is three times larger.

    Shields on TIEs, do not need so many TIEs, but shields on them.

    Invest in Eyes of Myself (IU Eyes of Palpatine). I will need four of them. They will surround the mobile place at all times. All times. NO exceptions.

    One single hand. Force sensitive, but untrained. ONE.

    Execute Tarkin doctrine to the letter. NO slaves.
     
  20. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Why strip Stormtroopers of their armor? Do you like casualties? If I were Emperor I'd invest in Legacy armor immediately.
     
  21. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    They can't stop blaster fire anyway. Brings cost down and make stormtrooper move faster.
     
  22. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    Then why give Tie's shields? Removing armor from one so they move faster, but adding armor to another because they're not defended well enough.
     
  23. SpecForce Trooper

    SpecForce Trooper Jedi Master star 4

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    Shrapnel. Bullets. Glancing bolts. Electrocution. Melee weapons.
     
  24. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'd invest in more SSDs, conquer Hutt space for good and ensure stormtroopers were trained at the level of the 501st in quality. I'd also conduct campaigns aiming to conquer the Chiss, Hapans, Corporate Sector, any minor powers, and the unknown regions.

    Study and learn and study till I achieve full immortality even if it takes me a thousand years.

    If I were Palpatine after achieving all of this I would replicate what I did for Byss on a galactic scale-from there I would command great war fleets and send them out to other galaxies conquering for eternity.
     
  25. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    In the EU, IIRC the ultimate plan was to have an SSD for every sector, and a Death Star for each Oversector.