So let me get this right, bumbum and boob is ok, but F word is bad?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by darth_boy, Aug 24, 2011.

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  1. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    Seriously I don't get or agree with the new JC picture policy.

    You can post links of pretty raunchy "art" (*snigger) but we cant even say f*s or other similar stuff.
    How about we are allowed to link swear words, does that make them ok?

    I don't get how FHM style pictures are suddenly ok, but say a naughty word and the sky has fallen.

    The rules are ridiculous considering most kids are effin' and jeffin by the age of 6

    WTB Consistency
  2. Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus

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    They're okay in one thread with a very obvious warning. The offending 'f' word wouldn't get that much restriction, I'd venture to guess. It's still a 'PG-13' board.
  3. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    This is just typical of inconsistent modding on the JC. Post a 4th thread 11 hours 57 minutes since your last, and it gets locked. But ass is ok? Seriously?

    What you consider art, some parents will consider borderline porn.

    JC modding needs a massive look at tbh. We have mods who have literally made 30 posts all year trying to promote the forums? How are they even meant to be in touch with the users, let alone be fair with them?
  4. Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus

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    So is this about the 'f' word, inconsistent modding or the lack of participation of the moderators?
  5. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    All 3 things go hand in hand?

    1) Allowing racy pictures is ok, but a mild swear is not ok. That's inconsistent.
    2) Mods are inconsistent because they hardly ever post or contribute to the JC.

  6. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    It seems to me that the new rule for the photography thread is consistent with the language policy.
  7. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Please go away, d_b. There are many things I would like to say to you, but I won't due to the rules here. However, they would be profane and highly inappropriate, so you can fill in the blanks if you'd like. You're stirring things up for the sake of stirring things up, and it got tiresome a long time ago. Please take your act somewhere else.

    The administration is placing some faith in a very small number of people (in effect, just in one person, because that's the total number of members who photograph anything that qualifies for the exception). Just because you're incapable of being mature enough to handle it doesn't mean everyone else as well.

    Be gone.
  8. Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus

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    No, it's not inconsistent. We're allowing artistic photography in the context of one thread in the Community forum as an embedded link. Quite a difference from what used to get posted in the Hottie wars. It would be a similar situation as one scene in a film.

    Profanity is not generally allowed in a PG/PG-13 movie every few minutes, nor should it be allowed here as a general rule. If we said that the 's' word or 'f' word were allowed, then they would be allowed in any and all threads.

    As for the mod participation, that seems to be an entirely different issue. If there are specific complaints about mods who don't contribute, that can be handled via a PM to me, Grimby or another moderator.
  9. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    Dude hatin' on me is very 2007, although you're welcome to facebook/IM any insults, it's all good babes.
    I'm not here for no beef. I lost my teen angst a while back man, try it.

    It is inconsistent;
    For me hiphop is an art form, far more than photography. Yet if I want to talk about interesting lyrics, it's next to impossible. Your point seems to be that everything is OK in context. But why is one "art" form OK to slightly change the rules, but this is no applicable in music or movie threads?

  10. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    But why is one "art" form OK to slightly change the rules, but this is no applicable in music or movie threads?

    That's just how it goes.
  11. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    This makes no sense what so ever.
    Kat basically said one user on the JC gets special privilege. Seems like "favours for friends" type ish there.
  12. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    That's what happens when you don't cause problems for people and earn people's respect. One person's favoritism is another person's earned respect and latitude.
  13. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    Since being unbanned I've been warned once by Jello in the last 18 months, and when he did I stopped posting for a month voluntarily to keep myself in check. If anyone has a problem with my posts take it to the mods, PM me about it or holla @ another thread.
    KW maybe you should actually post on the JC and contribute to our community, because I barely see you there. I'm just promoting JC posting.

    And your reasoning still doesn't justify favoritism.
  14. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    I'm telling you how it is. You don't have to like it, or even accept it. It's going to be whether you like it or not.
  15. Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus

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    But there is a difference in the core of those two art forms. Photography is visual but you can easily post the lyrics to a hip hip/rap song with the offending word starred out and still get the meaning of the song.

    Please don't throw around the whole tired 'mod favorite' thing. I didn't make this decision alone. The question was submitted via PM, discussed in the MS and I posted their result.
  16. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    Well you're not telling it how it is, as you already admitted to not saying what you want to. Basically you want to turn this in to a db thread. Most of the JC likes my posting, like I said it's not 2007. KW I welcome you start posting on the JC again; seriously the most fun I have posting with people I don't get along with. Debate and differing opinions is what makes the JC. If it was just my friends, I wouldn't post. Hell I've ended up making friends with people I didn't get along with once. You seem to be closing yourself off from making friends and enjoying the JC.

  17. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Regarding the guidelines, I applaud the administration for trusting that some people can handle trust being placed in it.
  18. harpua Chosen One

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    Well, to be fair, Kate, one could post an image of a nude woman with a big black box covering her ass, and we'd still get the meaning of the picture.
  19. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    er no? This is just proof that just don't understand the art. There are 100s of words I can't post. The meaning of a lyric is totally lost if my friends in the thread are having to guess the word. I'm not asking to post swear words. But being able to post half the word, whilst starring out the rest would allow people in the thread to understand. This is pure inconsistency. Just because the art has no interest to you, does not mean it's any less valid.
  20. Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus

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    That's true too, harps. I can't argue that at all. We made this call to allow a bit more artistic freedom in that thread while trying to maintain a sense of not posting needlessly gratuitous images.
  21. MarcusP2 Games and Community Reaper

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    Couldn't you post a link to the lyrics or a performance of the song, with a 'NSFW/language' warning? I'd think that's more an equivalent of what's being allowed here than direct posting of swear words.

    We're not allowing posting of these images inline in the thread. Just a link w/ warning.
  22. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    Most lyrics I am interested in sharing are not on websites?
  23. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    This is pure inconsistency. Just because the art has no interest to you, does not mean it's any less valid.


    Life is inconsistent, and you need to start dealing with that here. The art form that you like simply does not fit here, just as complete nude photos also do not fit here. There's no way around that.
  24. Katya Jade Administrator Emeritus

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    Exactly. We already do allow videos and articles that contain profanity as long as there's a warning in the link. So, really, we've already been doing it and the argument that we're inconsistent really becomes invalid.
  25. darth_boy Jedi Master

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    The JC isn't "life".
    I didn't realise you were the JC Lord Justice who decided that hiphop does not fit here. Strange considering the hiphop thread is far more popular and busy than the photo one.
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