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ST So now that Han is gone, shouldn't Chewie's life debt..

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by LordVader89, Dec 24, 2015.

  1. LordVader89

    LordVader89 Jedi Youngling

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    go to Kylo Ren technically since if the person who you are indebted to dies, you're supposed to serve the son?
     
  2. Drewdude91

    Drewdude91 Jedi Knight star 3

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  3. LadyPadme

    LadyPadme Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We're assuming a life debt extends beyond the life? Perhaps the life debt ends with death. In any case, since Kylo Ren is both the cause of death as well as possible recipient, wouldn't the two cancel out,like what would happen if someone killed Grandma to get her collection of Faberge eggs? In any case, related, but tangential, I would assume Chewies aim isn't usually off. You think he only injured Kylo rather than kill him just because he is Hans son?
     
  4. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think Chewie is in it for the long haul simply for Luke and Leia and now Rey - his friends.
     
  5. Rogue...Jedi

    Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think there's anything that officially says how the life debt works. I would tend to agree with LadyPadme's point and say it probably ends with Han's death, and even if it didn't usually, there's no way Chewie would immediately transfer his loyalty to the man who just killed his best friend. Now, if Ben were to come back to the light, might he and Chewie join up? Possibly, though I'd still be doubtful - kinda get the feeling he could stick with Rey.
     
  6. Tython Dawn

    Tython Dawn Jedi Knight star 1

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    If that is the case, I'd imagine there is some sort of exemption if the heir is the one who murdered the original.
     
  7. appleseed

    appleseed Chosen One star 5

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    Pretty sure Chewbacca made his statement on the Life Debt issue when he shot Kylo in the stomach and almost killed him.

    I think Ben lived because he's just that powerful and tough.
     
  8. TROR

    TROR Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Is Chewie's life debt even canon anymore?

    If it is, then it's over, but Han and Chewie were best buds so even though it might be done, Chewie's still going to stick around with the same crowd. It's not like Han treated him like a slave. Han probably would've let him break the debt if he wanted to at a certain point, I bet.
     
  9. Sarlaac_fanboy

    Sarlaac_fanboy Jedi Padawan star 1

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    If Chewie has a life debt, it's to Ben, not Kylo
     
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  10. appleseed

    appleseed Chosen One star 5

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    Yeah, it seems to be canon still, but obviously it was way beyond that. Han and Chewie were brothers, and in TFA it seemed like Chewie was almost taking care of Han.

    TFA might be Chewie's best movie-he was so well handled in it.
     
  11. Thrawn082

    Thrawn082 Force Ghost star 6

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    I would think that the life debt would be null and void at this point. However, I think that Chewie will end up sticking around and palling around with Leia, Rey, Poe, etc simply because he's fond of them.
     
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  12. Saurion-Fett

    Saurion-Fett Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I thought they were just friends?
     
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  13. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Looks to me like the life debt has transferred to Han's daughter Rey.
     
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  14. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    Pretty safe to say Rey is not Han's daughter. Also, this isn't just about life debts anymore. The visual guide points out Chewie was at home when Han asked for his help and the two paired up for some smuggling. Now his best friend is dead at the hands of Kylo Ren and the FO threatens the galaxy again...do you really think Chewie is going to sit on his big furry butt and do nothing about this?
     
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  15. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Not sure if the life-debt is still canon.
    Chewie would probably still protect Leia, Rey, Finn, Luke, etc regardless.
    In the EU, Chewie put Leia, Luke, Mara and the kids under the life-debt.
    And after Chewie died, his son and nephew Lumpy and Lowie, wanted to continue the life-debt.
    Well before Denning changed that in DNT.
     
  16. Argalin

    Argalin Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Chewie owes Kylo a life debt alright. Eye for an eye you could say. ;)
     
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  17. Adept

    Adept Force Ghost star 4

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    He tried paying the debt....but between Kylo's toughness and Chewies anguish he failed to make good on the Payment. Never forget people, two in the head and one in the chest solves anyone.
     
  18. Elle-Wan

    Elle-Wan Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I think the life-debt idea is pretty antiquated at this point and it lessens their loyalty to each other (also I don't think it was ever in the movies so I'm dismissing it as non-canon). They're buddies. That's all that was ever needed to explain why they travel together.
     
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  19. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    Life debt is a dumb racist trope that evolved in the Victorian times. Good riddance to it.
     
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  20. Strange Old Hermit

    Strange Old Hermit Jedi Knight star 3

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    Life debt essentially equals slavery. I prefer to think of Chewie as something more to Han than an indentured servant.
     
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  21. Strange Old Hermit

    Strange Old Hermit Jedi Knight star 3

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    By the way, life debt is still canon as the second Aftermath novel is entitled Life Debt. Unfortunately.
     
  22. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    One of the next aftermath novels is called 'Life debt', so maybe it is explained in this novel. ;)
     
  23. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Chosen One star 6

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    Crap! Of all EU inventions they had to keep that one.
     
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  24. IG_2000

    IG_2000 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Maybe Chewie will become Wookie Drax the Destroyer to Kylo Ren's Thanos and he will just be obsessed with killing him for the next two movies
     
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  25. Elle-Wan

    Elle-Wan Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I would also expect that even if the life-debt were a thing, pretty soon after it was established on one of the many times [assuredly] Chewie saved Han's life, Han would have said something like "Chewie, we're even, considered it fullfulled, but I'd like you to join me as my first mate." ...I think that would serve both of their characters better to clarify that they hang out together because they both want to.
     
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