So now the Matrix fans have their Phantom Menace?

Discussion in 'The Phantom Menace' started by sdj, May 18, 2003.

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  1. Cometgreen Jedi Padawan

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    And don't worry, I won't use those crappy cop out lines. I think the first time you use those, you can honestly be called a gusher. ...Eww.

    And give Durwood some time. He just said he doesn't want to get into an indepth debate. He may come back and explain himself.

    Cometgreen
  2. Loco_for_Lucas Jedi Master

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    Yep, true, the "Gushiest of the Gushers" use those things. :p
  3. Punisher Jedi Master

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    Well, I'm going to stop from being so serious ;) and share this with you...

    *Warning: The following link is a parody of The Matrix, if you can't handle cursing or laughing your butt off, don't go to that link!
    Pizza Matrix

    A friend e-mailed that link to me and I figured everyone might appreciate a good laugh.
  4. Loco_for_Lucas Jedi Master

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    Following in suit with Punisher's act of humor, I'm including a link to one of my favorite sites. It's a parody script of TPM.

    Check it out. ;)
  5. Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan

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  6. Loco_for_Lucas Jedi Master

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  7. Durwood Jedi Master

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    Well, some Star Wars Bashers tend to back up what they say, rather than just allude to it and leave.

    And yet at the end of the day, it's still just their opinion.
  8. DrEvazan Jedi Youngling

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    look everyone! he came up with another copout!
  9. DarthSil Jedi Padawan

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    NO!!! Just another obvious statement!!!
  10. _dArTh_SoLo Jedi Master

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    honestly, I think that reloaded is 10 times better than TPM.

    not to say TPM is bad, because I like it a lot...Reloaded to me is just better.
  11. Durwood Jedi Master

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    look everyone! he came up with another copout!

    This coming from the guy who worked hard to earn the nickname "Duck and Run Evazan"! [face_laugh]
  12. DrEvazan Jedi Youngling

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    still copping out... the nickname applies far better to you Durwood. are you going to answer the questions posed of you or do you want to steer this topic further off course?

    although sometimes it seems like that is the plan... you steer the topic off course til the thread closes and you dont have to back up anything you say.
  13. JohnWilliams00 Jedi Padawan

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    Those PT scripts were funny.

    "GEORGE LUCAS:

    Three years, suckers. I'd make
    them come out sooner, but I work
    very hard on my films, as I am an
    independent filmmaker due to my
    disgust with Hollywood's
    commercialism. Now go buy some Star
    Wars toys!


    [face_laugh]

    One from AOTC:

    JAY LAGA'AIA (Typho):

    We have to go to another obviously
    computer-generated location and
    interact with computer-generated
    characters. Hurry, before the movie
    gets boring.


    That sums up what the PT is all about to me. [face_plain]

  14. DarthSil Jedi Padawan

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    Gladly George! Oh and thanks for making Star Wars.
  15. Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan

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    YODA

    Heard about the explosion, I did.
    Seeing you again brings warmness to
    my heart. Wait, that's not my heart.


    [face_laugh]
  16. Green_Destiny_Sword Jedi Grand Master

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    Again, I just don't see the same reaction from Matrix fans as I see from the TPM fallout/Monumental Civil War. On matrixfans.net, there is a forum devote to "Reloaded Reviews." In their pole to rate the movie, at least 80% gave Reloaded and 8 or higher out of 10. Many of the comments say the movie was amazing. There are people saying they did not like it or thought it was horrible, but it's not nearly on the level of intense flaming that went on in these forums after TPM. I mean, there was serious anger and bitterness all over the place.

    I don't it's remotely analogous.

    And please refrain from posting any critic's quotes about Reloaded. Lest we want to open the floodgates of horrific, negative rips of TPM that came from hundreds of media sources.
  17. DarthSil Jedi Padawan

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    You mean like

    ". . . oak-like acting"

    ". . . repetitive and dull"

    Oh and what a surprise, people posting on a Matrix message board love Reloaded, or my personal preference, Regurgitated.



  18. Green_Destiny_Sword Jedi Grand Master

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    There is much worse than that out there.

    And again, I also referred people to the reviews on countingdown.com, a very popular site for general movie fans. You can also check boxofficeguru.com. 86% of the reviewers were 'very satisified' and many felt it would beat Spider Man's record.
  19. Loco_for_Lucas Jedi Master

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    Oh and what a surprise, people posting on a Matrix message board love Reloaded, or my personal preference, Regurgitated.


    Well, that says a lot about the movie, doesn't it? To where the fans may feel what they do, but still think it is a worthy film to stand by. Now look at this community, the PT has fractured Star Wars fans. Were those movies better, none of this would be happening. SO, by your reasoning, there should be overwhelming support for the PT. Unfortunately, those movies were so underwhelming, it's hard to find a positive without having to sift through about ten negatives, or pretending the negatives are non-existant.
  20. Green_Destiny_Sword Jedi Grand Master

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  21. Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan

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    Sil, did you even see Reloaded?
  22. Durwood Jedi Master

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    On matrixfans.net, there is a forum devote to "Reloaded Reviews." In their pole to rate the movie, at least 80% gave Reloaded and 8 or higher out of 10.

    Go look in the ATTACK OF THE CLONES forum. The polls there, one from last year and a brand new one to see if opinions had shifted over time, both rate CLONES at 80%.

    Sorry, didn't mean to burst your bubble.
  23. hawk Jedi Knight

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    CometGreen

    My main point was trying to show that the "they were programmed" point does not work well with the first Matrix. If they just follow by their programming that they must destroy Neo and his ilk, why did they disobey such programming and run away in the original Matrix? I guess I ended up talking too much about other points, however.

    Just because they are "programmed" to apprehend or kill Neo and co doesn't mean they blindly chase after them. They are sentient and have choices too. They aren't mindless juggernauts who don't stop to reason. Getting themselves killed won't help complete their task and they were sure that would happen at the end of the Matrix. But they did return when equipped.
  24. Green_Destiny_Sword Jedi Grand Master

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    Go look in the ATTACK OF THE CLONES forum. The polls there, one from last year and a brand new one to see if opinions had shifted over time, both rate CLONES at 80%.

    Uhh...I thought this thread was comparing Reloaded to THE PHANTOM MENACE?? lol.
  25. sdj Jedi Padawan

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    TPM is pretty high up there too.
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