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Lit SOB: Save Our Ben, Ben Skywalker

Discussion in 'Literature' started by THE EVIL CLIFFIE, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Master star 4

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    I need more of dem boyz for it to have a !

    Maybe some of dem sneaky or shooty boyz. But none o dem weird boyz


    Exile is in my opinion his finest hour.
     
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  2. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    AusStig, can you explain why ?
     
  3. THE EVIL CLIFFIE

    THE EVIL CLIFFIE Jedi Master star 2

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    I quite liked him in Revelation, but that book's general malaise tends to drown the good bits out.
     
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  4. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I agree completely.

    I got this one. Because for almost the entire book he is completely by himself, without parents, aunt, uncle, or cousins to detract from his own feats. He gets to insult a rude old lady, sneak into a museum, get lost in a forest, save a little girl and form a bond with her, and fight off Sith spirits tempting him to do all sorts of evil things (including eating said little girl). All in all, Exile is one of the biggest reasons I love Ben.

    As did I. Ben's full-out CSI mode was totally awesome. And Shevu played out excellently as a friend and mentor for Ben.

    As for me, I'll add that some of my favorite Ben moments happen in Outcast (when Luke forces him to beat up the Baran Do academy guard, among other things) and *gasp!* Apocalypse. The latter, I like because of his feats in the book. Between fighting through the Jedi Temple and taking out a fair share of Sith, to performing a Force blast that would've knocked a frigate out of orbit, Ben definitely shone in that book. But yes, as for pure Ben awesomeness throughout, definitely Exile.
     
  5. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    Revanfan1 to piggyback off of your comments regarding Exile, I completely agree, and this is also why I enjoy Ben in Revelation. He's acting and operating completely on his own, no Caedus, no Mara, just pure Ben Skywalker making choices and living with the consequences. It's easy for him to fall into the shadows when being blinded by his Grand Master father's presence, but when he's on his own he's able to truly shine and show off his own abilities. Honestly, I wish we'd gotten more of that in FOTJ, though I did enjoy his relationship with Luke and how it'd grown.
     
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  6. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    To me Ben was at his best in Backlash. He has not been great since.
     
  7. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Oh, yeah. I forgot Backlash. That's one of the best FOTJ books.
     
  8. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    you know i am re-reading FOTJ right now. I liked Outcast, the ligt hearted play between Luke and Ben. I don't like that Lue was exiled, but i accepted that as a part of the dalla is an idiot storyline. Not del Rey's fault. I am re-reading Omen, and that is good. This series was really good for ahwile, just like LOTF, and just like LOTf it went downhill. I especially thought it went downhill in Asension, undoing all the good in Conviction, and then of course the mess that was Apocalypse.
     
  9. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Does anyone remember which book it was that said Ben had no friends?
     
  10. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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  11. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    of course Luke saw a vision where Ben was playing with a wookie, but that never happened onscreen. Ben did not get a childhood.
     
  12. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I liked Ben the best when he was a Detective/Jedi also working for the GAG In LOTF.
     
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  13. Skaddix

    Skaddix Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He will be saved deletion shall set him free to fanfics.
     
  14. EECHUUTA

    EECHUUTA Jedi Master star 4

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    How to save Ben? Give him a brother or sister. Have Luke find out through his journey that one of the women he was with previously years ended up getting pregnant by him, and now Ben has a sibling. Ben gets a peer, and we get to see his development with finding out he's not an only kid anymore.
     
  15. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    I personally believe that Luke did not have intercourse with any woman before Mara. Just a personal head-canon. Han, it was heavily implied many, many times, but Luke it was not even hinted. Did he even once kiss Callista or Akanah?
     
  16. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    well Ben needs to be portrayed evenly by multiple authors. To me, Allston does the best Ben
     
  17. JediMara77

    JediMara77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ugh, no. Star Wars is not Jerry Springer.
     
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  18. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Quite. We don't need stuff like "MAN DISCOVERS THE WOMAN HE LOVES IS ACTUALLY HIS SISTER!" in this franchise..
     
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  19. JediMara77

    JediMara77 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sorry, I had enough "LONG LOST LOVE RETURNS" during Fate of the Jedi. Not to mention the baby daddy drama in Dark Nest.

    Maybe you're right. Star Wars is Jerry Springer.

    (No wonder I haven't liked anything between 35 and 45 ABY.)
     
  20. THE EVIL CLIFFIE

    THE EVIL CLIFFIE Jedi Master star 2

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    MAN DISCOVERS THE WOMAN WHO KISSED HIM AND WITH WHOM HE HAD SEXUAL TENSION WITH is his sister...

    oh wait

    (I know you were being facetious :p)
     
  21. AusStig

    AusStig Jedi Master star 4

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    I think the authors would just kill him if he had a spare.
     
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  22. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    I kinda want to see Ben bring Vestara back from the dark. be kinda symbolic for the son to redeem a dark sider just like his father did (both his father and his future wife)
     
  23. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    me to. But to me Ascension ruined whatever progress was made in Conviction
     
  24. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    And Crucible cemented said ruin once and for all.
     
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  25. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    what happened in crucible?