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Lit SOB: Save Our Ben, Ben Skywalker

Discussion in 'Literature' started by THE EVIL CLIFFIE, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    What happened on Mimban, stays on Mimban.
     
  2. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    but what really happen on Mimban ? ;)
     
  3. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Vestara killed 25,000 innocent people.
     
  4. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    what the hell for?
     
  5. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Does it matter?
     
  6. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    i mean she is a sith but from what i read she wasn't exactly your typical sith.
     
  7. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, but you're assuming a level of thought that doesn't seem to be in evidence.
     
  8. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    She killed them because her bosses wanted to buy Lando Calrissian's business, and he wouldn't sell it, so she started sabotaging parts of his business, at one point bringing down an orbital drill to kill 25,000 people, and remove Han Solo's left eye. Why the Qreph brothers assumed said sabotage would make Lando want to sell, I do not know.

    I wish I was lying about that. I'm not.
     
  9. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Crucible was all time horrible novel. What a bad way to send off the big three. It should have been more like Vecter Prime where they were glorified for all their sacrifices for the galaxy. Instead they were punished
     
  10. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    Han's missing an Eye? jeez.
     
  11. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Not anymore, he got a replacement. He said its sees better than his old one.
     
  12. Mat Skywalker

    Mat Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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  13. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    But it is true. Ben doe snot have any friends, not like Jacen, Jaina, and even Anakin had. Ben did not get a young glory year period where he got to have fun and go on adventures. He did not have a childhood.
     
  14. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    It really is sad. It's because of the stupid five-year jump from NJO to DNT, and again from DNT to LOTF. Why was that necessary...at all? Those were the prime years to be using Jacen and Jaina and they wasted ten of them! Ten!
     
  15. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    yeah and now everything we hold dear is being thrown out. They are not using the eu at all. They are starting from scratch. What a waste!! Ben, Jaina, Jacen will not exist in the new st.
     
  16. The Compeer

    The Compeer Jedi Knight star 2

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    Isn't there another thread we hyperventilate about the ST in?

    Anyways, my two creds on this: Ben's character does indeed suffer from a lack of people his own age to interact with, but that's just symptomatic of a bigger issue: they don't write stories like YJK anymore because developing character isn't one of their goals anymore. Why should they, when the already-developed Big Three and sometimes Jaina do so much of the heavy lifting? It's been said plenty of times before, but it bears repeating: the post-NJO EU was written hastily and hyper-conservatively, cashing in on the characters and story archetypes that had been proven to work and put onto the market as quickly as possible. Things like character development or even original characters are sacrificed for the sake of the story, which it seems to me is a choice writers only make for terrible stories. That's no coincidence, of course; what good story elevates plot to the point where character means literally nothing? As things stand, Ben's even being alive still is something we probably owe to the Legacy comics. Giving him an interesting character, though, that's a bridge too far.
     
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  17. JediMatteus

    JediMatteus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    his character was very interesting in novels like Backlash. They just need to keep with his investigative background.
     
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  18. mattman8907

    mattman8907 Jedi Master star 4

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    I kinda wanna do a story where there is a third Galactic Civil War and the Sith are finally at a point where they can be a very real threat to the galaxy and Ben and Vestara have one final confrontation where he pleads for her to return to the light and they either duel in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant or on Korriban where the sith have established a New Sith Temple of sorts.
     
  19. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Bump. Ben deserves some attention. Poor kid was neglected by his parents, aunt and uncle, cousins, and even the Jedi Temple kids his age! We can't abandon him too. :p

    Given the Essential Characters was cancelled, I guess we'll never see Ben drawn in EGTC form. :(
     
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  20. windu4

    windu4 Jedi Master star 4

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    Do we even know if we're ever going to see Ben again? Isn't the EU on some kind of hold until Episode VII comes out?
     
  21. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    It seems to be on hold for the time being, but that doesn't mean they won't continue to release it as AU material after VII is released. Of course, post-VII EU will probably be ST continuity, though.
     
  22. JediFan215

    JediFan215 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Ben is my favorite EU character that is surviving as of Crucible. Shame that we won't get to see his story's conclusion
     
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  23. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I love Ben's character. Too bad the EU most likely won't be happening, I would've loved to have seen his relationship with Allana.
     
  24. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I forgot how much I loved this thread title.
     
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  25. ThreadSketch

    ThreadSketch Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeeeeeeah. *facepalm* :oops:[face_blush]:p[face_laugh]