not to go off topic but...... I enjoyed the Nolan films but I found the campy cartoon entertaining as well. Also agreed with everybody else if you like Avengers and Star Wars take a look at Firefly, don't take my word for it. back to Luke, here's an idea for a topic. As some of you have mentioned there was period in the 90's where optimistic heroes were replaced by anti-hero counterparts. Spider-man had the Scarlet Spider, Captain America had US Agent, and Superman had his four replacements during the Death story line. Now I believe that Luke had his own counterpart in the 90's as well as now with Starkiller. I believe KJA's intent was to developed Kyp into the better, younger, more powerful hero to replaced Luke later down the line, save that no other writer follow that up. Kyp had the background of living as a slave on Kessel, was theorized to be more powerful Luke(except he wasn't), and had more 'tude than Luke due to hanging with Exar Kun. As mention the idea never really pan out for KJA's creation, but at least the character became a main stay in the NJO. Fast forward to current times and we have Starkiller, an obvious dark analogue to Luke. Heck he's practically proto-Luke, with creating the Alliance and being the sole jedi(saved for Kota) to the Rebellion. The creator stated that Starkiller is what Luke would have become had he trained under his father.