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Amph Spider-Man Films (Venom, Into The Spider-Verse, Far From Home)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Spiderfan, May 20, 2008.

  1. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Been a real long time since I remember an Ultimate Spider-Man issue that just had Ganke and Miles hanging out but the Lego bit with Ned in the Homecoming seemed familiar, I wouldn't be surprised if they took that from USM.

    What'll be really odd is if in Into the Spider-Verse they just have Ganke instead of Ned, or maybe they just name Ganke Ned again?
     
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  2. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Miles Morales was an evolving character. He started out as an assuming character, and didn't appear to have any friends, as his social network was pretty much his uncle and his parents. He was pretty responsible and mature for his age, as he knew right from wrong and tried to please his parents. When he was bit by the scientifically enhanced spider, Miles freaked out and kept it a secret, IIRC.

    The early parts of the introduction of Miles in the Ultimate Universe didn't surround him with a group of friends, until he befriends Ganke as noted by BigAl above. It takes Miles a bit to warm up to other people as he's an introvert and has his big secret. Additionally, his parents being separated weighed on him. And like Peter Parker, his sense of responsibility got the better of him, and so he took up being a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man in a Spider-Man halloween costume, which upset a few people. Ultimate Jessica Drew tracked down Miles and set him up with a new suit and a tie to SHIELD.

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    Ultimate Universe Gwen, Aunt May and MJ reached out to Miles and helped him out in giving him Parker's old webshooters. Miles was humbled and honored by the help and empowered to become his own version of Spider-Man.

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    The comic book/Miles makes it clear that he doesn't want to be know as "Black Spider-Man" but rather just Spider-Man.

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  3. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, if you don't want to be known as Black Spider-Man (or more likely Black Spider or Spider-Boy) don't wear a black spider suit while there is another Spider-Man running around
     
  4. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Well, the thing about that...

    First of all, the Peter Parker of the Marvel Ultimate Universe died before Miles became Spider-Man. And as I posted above, Miles initially started his friendly neighborhood Spidey career in a Halloween costume. It was Spider-Woman/Jessica Drew that tracked Miles down and gave him his black Spidey suit. Miles really didn't have any input on the color scheme of the suit.

    As for the "Black Spider-Man" thing, well, a couple of things about that. It's a meta commentary on how some readers or the general public might view Miles as Spider-Man, much so people view War Machine as the "Black Iron Man." The writer of Miles, Brian Michael Bendis, wanted to let the readers and the general public know that the shouldn't view Miles as the "Black Spider-Man" but rather just a Spider-Man; without any qualifications like any other super hero.

    Additionally, Stan Lee commented on Spidey suit covering every inch of skin was a good thing as he said:
    "What I like about the costume is that anybody reading Spider-Man in any part of the world can imagine that they themselves are under the costume. And that’s a good thing."​

    And just to provide a little more back story to the panels posted above. It was just assumed in the Ultimate Universe by the general public that this new Spider-Man taking over the mantle from Peter Parker was White. That was until an obsessed fans and video blogger combed over some video and saw a tear in Miles' costume that exposed his skin and we got this...

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    which lead into this...

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    The whole point of it was to tear down the old school practice of qualifying Black super heroes with the adjective, much like football where there no more talk of a "Black Quarterback" as was the case with Doug Williams.
     
  5. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Sort of new image from EW of Venom. You can see the veins along the shoulders. As I posted previously, I saw the Venom trailer on the big screen and Venom looked much better than on my computer. The only thing bothering me is the gloss/plastic look to the eyes. If the eyes looked more organic, it would go along way to looking more realistic, IMO. The photo below being grainy doesn't help the look of the character.

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    With another trailer reportedly to drop next week at SDCC and reports that this film was inspired by Lethal Protector, I'm wondering if there will be other symbiotes in the film.
     
  6. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I love the look here- even the eyes. They don't look plasticy to me at all- they look mucusy or jellyfish-like.
     
  7. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Please eat brains, please eat brains, please eat brains
     
  8. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Jedi Knight star 3

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    I thought the same thing. The milky translucence is reminiscent of certain jellyfish or a sea cucumber's intestines (they eject them as an defense mechanism).
     
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  9. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Plus Venom seems more wide-eyed in that pic than trying to do a "mean squint", which just makes him even more creepier with that milky effect.
     
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  10. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Yeah, I have to say, I really like his look. They're doing it right this time.
     
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  11. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I look forward to Tom Hardy's performance. Loved him in Inception, The Dark Knight Rises, and Mad Max: Fury Road. He will be remembered as a legend.
     
  12. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    Sorry, I think I was a bit short in my comment. I fully understand the point about commenting on the whole "Black [something]" superhero name but the thing is that if there is a Spider-Man (alive or dead) and a new appear (that you know is a different one) wearing a mostly black suit it's rather likely that he will be called something combining black and spider (or words meaning the same thing), just like when Ben Reilly first appeared he was called Scarlet Spider because of his wholly read suit. He was not called Spider-Man since there already was one around.
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    So if Milles want to lower the chances of being called something combining black and spider (or words meaning the same thing) he should use a costume where black isn't the main colour.

    Also another example of a spider legacy hero getting named by the press and not getting the name he wanted was Hobby Brown of Earth-25315
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    Admitingly I'm posting this part mostly because I want to spread the awareness of Spider Hero not because it's that good an example :p
     
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