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Amph Spider-Man Films (Venom, Into The Spider-Verse)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Spiderfan, May 20, 2008.

  1. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    This is probably the most Venom-y bit in all of Spider-Man 3 and I still think it's kind of awesome even in a gif. In fact, I love the moment when Eddie starts dry heaving, that is some seriously freaky stuff.
     
  2. Gamiel

    Gamiel Force Ghost star 6

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    I did not say that he would not be the protagonist, just that he was a villain
     
  3. PCCViking

    PCCViking Force Ghost star 10

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    Yep, villains aren't always the antagonists. Take Darth Bane for example: he's a villain, but he was the protagonist of his trilogy.
     
  4. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Again, not always. He has been the hero.
     
  5. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    Okay, I'm going to have to go full on comic book nerd here.

    I remember reading the early Todd MacFarlane and Eric Larson Venom iterations and I don't recall him being an evil villain, per se. And what I mean by that, is Venom was solely focus on making Peter Parker's life hell. He wasn't a bank robber, bent on world domination or even a psychotic killer. Dude just hated Spider-Man/Peter Parker. He threaten Peter by showing up at Aunt May's doorstep, but didn't touch her IIRC.

    Even during his fights with Spider-Man, Venom stopped to save a woman and a baby.

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    I never really saw Venom as a villain, but rather a tormentor.
     
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  6. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Venom has gone through a lot of changes but his earliest incarnation is Spider-Man tormentor who does save innocents. But there's also Venom going crazy, Venom with other hosts, Venom straight up eating people. Like when Venom was on the Thunderbolts it wasn't Eddie Brock but Mac Gargan (Scorpion) and he would frequently freak out and straight up eat people cuz he couldn't control it. And then there's Flash Thompson Agent Venom superhero. So there's a whole lot of ways to do it.

    Actually an interesting example is the tendrils that sometimes snake out from Venom's costume, sort of inspired by Carnage, but it's a cool look that the symbiote is unstable / always moving. that look comes and goes with Venom but personally I kinda dig it, gives it a sense of unease.

    Carnage is a good example of someone who does control their symbiote but they're just crazy.
     
  7. TrandoJedi

    TrandoJedi Jedi Master star 4

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    I'd rather have an Agent Venom movie than an Eddie one. Blandest of the bland, I don't really have any hope for this movie.
     
  8. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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  9. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As I recall, there was discussion that Life was a secret prequel to Venom.
     
  10. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    Oh, FFS... apparently Carnage will be a post-credits teaser in Venom...

    That's the only way that movie even remotely works...
     
  11. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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    It wouldn't surprise me that Carnage would be a post credit teaser, but that would mean that Carnage is not the villain in Venom, but I suppose Cletus Kasady could make an appearance in the film, like Mac Gargan (aka Scorpion) did in Spider-Man: Homecoming.

    If Venom were in the current MCU with high school Peter/Spidey, I imagine the tormenting would go something like this...

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  12. Sith_Sensei__Prime

    Sith_Sensei__Prime Chosen One star 6

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  13. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Dahh, I want the live action Spider-Verse with Holland, McGuire and Garfield to be a thing so bad. And we can get Emma Stone Spider-Gwen!
     
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  14. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, this is interesting, Spike Lee(!) is being looked at at a Spidey spin off, Nightwatch! Wait, what? Spike Lee? Nightwatch?

    https://www.thewrap.com/spike-lee-superhero-movie-nightwatch/

    Yah, this is a pretty deep, random cut that even with my depth of Spidey-knowledge I have no clue of.

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    Dude looks like a Spawn beta version, hold on, lemmie check...

    ....

    http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Kevin_Trench_(Earth-616)

    Huh, looks like the character was created after Spawn (and Spawn was created by Todd McFarlane after he left Spidey to found Image/create Spawn). Someone at the Spidey offices just ripping off Spawn just cuz Spawn sold a lot?

    Eh, whatever. More Spidey stuff, with Spike Lee!
     
  15. Bilbo Fett

    Bilbo Fett Jedi Knight star 3

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    The new Venom trailer shown at CinemaCon has leaked and is out there for the digging if you can't wait until they release it officially (probably this week sometime). Definite improvement over the first one and not just because yes, they show the "costume". Much creepier vibe from this one.

    edit: Well that was quick

     
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  16. Master_Lok

    Master_Lok Force Ghost star 6

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    Never knew about Nightwatch...looks interesting. Glad to see Spike experimenting with more genres lately.
     
  17. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    That... looks really good. I love the voice, the look... just not how they pronounce "Symbiote". ;)

    Due to the comic it's taking inspiration from, there was talk of this story being a post-bonding/left-for-a-different-city type scenario, but this is clearly an origin story, unless it's told in flashback or they're holding back a lot of the story.

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  18. Jordan1Kenobi

    Jordan1Kenobi Host of Star Wars Character Contest star 6 VIP - Game Host

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    That trailer looks fantastic! Way better than the first one. This role is perfect for Tom Hardy.
     
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  19. PCCViking

    PCCViking Force Ghost star 10

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    It's funny that Tom Hardy is playing Venom. As everyone knows, he played Bane in The Dark Knight Rises. While that Bane's strength's origin is different from the comics, in the comics (and Batman & Robin), Bane's strength is due to...venom.
     
  20. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I agree, that looks great. Far beyond expectations.
     
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  21. cubman987

    cubman987 Your Friendly Neighborhood CT/PT/Saga Moderator star 6 Staff Member Moderator

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    Huh....that kind of looks terrible to me, though I appreciate that Venom looks like Venom. Hope I'm wrong about it, it has lots of people I like in it and I really want to see a good Venom movie but nothing about it so far has me excited.
     
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  22. Diggy

    Diggy Force Ghost star 7

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    Yeah, it’s not doing it for me.

    And I find Hardy’s voice weally distwacting in this.
     
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  23. PCCViking

    PCCViking Force Ghost star 10

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    Worse than his Bane voice? (haven't seen the new Venom trailer yet)
     
  24. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    That... still does not look that great.
     
  25. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It feels very 90's. And not in a good way.