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Amph Spider-Man: Homecoming (and Spin-offs) (Venom)

Discussion in 'Community' started by Spiderfan, May 20, 2008.

  1. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    I find your accusations of bias amusing.
     
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  2. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    Nearly 20 years since Jurassic Park.
     
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  3. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I guess the fact that they've actually making a Spiderman film with Spiderman as the main character was why I enjoyed it. YMMV.
     
  4. Valyn

    Valyn Jedi Master star 8

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    If you mean an over the top jokester over compensating for Toby's lack of quips, I guess. But everything around that jokester just wasn't good (with the exception of Gwen).
     
  5. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    We get it Valyn. You loved Raimi's films and nothing could possibly ever be as good for you (regardless of actual quality or objectivity). Everyone else is wrong, you and your friends are right, and no one will ever convince you otherwise. Can we move on now please, this is getting old...
     
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  6. JoinTheSchwarz

    JoinTheSchwarz JC Head Admin & Community Manager star 8 Staff Member Administrator

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    Raimi's movies were great because they showed that autism spectrum disorders are no drawback to becoming a superhero.
     
  7. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    IT'S YOU WHO'S OUT GOBBY! OUT OF YOUR MIND!
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Picked up the BD today. Only browsed the extras so far but did watch the deleted scenes. It's not as substantial as I would have liked (the spider/destiny material is not present [other than the implication from the Oscorp henchman's death scene], nor are the SWAT Lizards) but it has some nice moments. I actually would have liked one or two of the Connors scenes to be added back in (particularly the greater-than-what-we-suffer scene).

    The alternate death of Uncle Ben is mixed- it has both it's pluses (the sketch art shot has greater impact, and I like the spider-sense detection of Ben's death) and negatives (it feels more obligatory than the theatrical version).

    The other scenes I can see why they were cut (though the small shot of the small lizard would have been a good thing to include if the rest of the scene had been kept).
     
  9. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I picked it up yesterday, too, but didn't have a chance to check out the extras and deleted scenes yet. I got the Target exclusive edition, with another disc of bonus stuff. Hopefully, I'll have a chance to work through some of it today.
     
  10. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    I am disappointed but mine did not come with the confirmation code for my ultraviolet copy. :(
     
  11. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    At the end of the day, though, it's an Ultraviolet copy, not an actual digital copy.
     
  12. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    It was my understanding you could download a digital copy from the UV cloud but it appears that's not the case. :(
     
  13. Life

    Life Jedi Knight star 4

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    I would not have liked this.
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    It's actually a nice moment, that sudden head snap- but it places Ben's death far offscreen, so it's a pro and con.
     
  15. Valyn

    Valyn Jedi Master star 8

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    I just rented the bluray today to give this movie a second chance and since my fiancee hadn't seen it yet.

    Her overall impressions: good movie, Andrew Garfield > Tobey Maguire, Lizard = silly.

    As for myself...

    I by no means am one of those people who think that Raimi's movies were untouchable. They all have flaws (especially the third, but we all know that).

    Upon my second view tonight, it was decent. I think it was flawed in the areas already discussed (Lizard, Ben Parker scenes), but (like the Raimi film) it also had its pros.

    That said, I suppose neither one of them are as perfect a Spider-Man movie as Batman Begins or the Dark Knight is as perfect a Batman movie.

    EDIT:

    I do, however, expect the second one to be better. Spider-Man 2 was my favorite of the Raimi trilogy, the Dark Knight was the best of the Dark Knight trilogy, Empire was the best of the Star Wars trilogy, X-2 was the best of the X-Men trilogy...second films in a trilogy seem to have a good thing going for them
     
  16. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Plus it won't have any left over elements from an abandoned sequel (that the director didn't work on) to hold it back. The Lizard plotline was obviously a carry-over to some degree or another, and those tended to be the weakest parts. Webb excelled with the Peter/Gwen and Parker family stuff, so I think he'll craft something more to his strengths next time.
     
  17. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Malleus Maleficarum star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    They are talking to Paul Giamatti about playing Rhino in ASM2. Bloody brilliant!
     
  18. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Whoa really? That's...erm....interesting. Don't really see Giamatti as the Rhino, but I don't see Jamie Foxx as Electro either, so we'll see!

    Apparently he loves the Rhino lol.

    Now I'm just worried that they're overstuffing this movie...but my hopes are that some villains are cameos, which I'd love to see btw.
     
  19. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's interesting... when I saw this movie in the theater with my son I thought it blew away the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies. Now, however, I guess that enthusiasm has faded and I pretty much view them as being equal overall, just different.
     
  20. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 8

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    Can't see Rhino being a major part of the plot as a villain unless he is working with Electro.
     
  21. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Nice to see that Sony has learned absolutely nothing from Spider-Man 3. Too many villains? No such thing!
     
  22. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I really enjoyed The Amazing Spider-Man but much more on my second and third viewing. It's far superior to the first and third films in Raimi's series but Spider-Man 2 is better than this. I can't wait for the sequel and since The Rhino is supposed to be in it now I'm super stoked!

    Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone were so much better then Toby Maguire and Kirsten Dunst.
     
  23. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    I know. I mean look at how it ruined Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.
     
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  24. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I'll change my mind when Nolan is making Spider-Man.
     
  25. Spider-Fan

    Spider-Fan Jedi Master star 4

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    Because he's the only person in the world that could possibly balance multiple characters and storylines.
     
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