Amph Spider-Man & SSU Films (Madame Web, Venom 3, Kraven, Beyond the Spider-Verse)

So, the novelization has come out and if you want do not want to know who Zendaya is playing, do not open the spoiler tag.

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She's the Vulture's daughter. So it looks like they used Raimi's idea, but tweaked it to fit what Marvel is doing.

 

Venom & Silver Sable/Black Cat ARE in the MCU! According to Amy Pascal who was sitting literally beside Kevin Fiege at the time.

http://www.cbr.com/spider-man-homecoming-same-universe-as-venom/

“Well, those movies will all take place in the world that we’re now creating for Peter Parker,” Pascal said while sitting beside Feige. “They’ll all be adjuncts to it. They may be different locations, but it will still all be in the same world. They will all be connected to each other as well.”

When asked if Tom Holland would appear in any of the films, Pascal responded, “There’s a chance. There’s always a chance. I think one of the things that Kevin has done with Marvel that’s so brilliant is bringing the fans along and making each movie seem like a chapter in a book that you have to read in order to go forward, and I think the investment that the fans get to feel in being part of a larger story and understanding what’s happening is something that I know Sony would want to emulate.”

If one wanted to put a handle on it, I'd say the Venom & Sable/Black Cat are kind of like the MCU TV to MCU movies. MCU TV references the movies, MCU movies don't really reference TV. So, yeah, think that. (Or Kevin Fiege doesn't like to play with his toys outside of the MCU movie sandbox if one is feeling cynical)

 

There were so many possibilities on how these comments could work in my head.

One, as BigAl6ft6 suggests, is that Sony's Venom-verse is akin to the Marvel's TV/Netflix universe, where the MCU proper is referenced but none of the main stars appear or crossover. Which makes sense and would probably work.

Two, would be the Venom-verse is like Deadpool where is connected to the proper X-Men-verse but exist is a different timeline/pocket universe. This would allow for a grown up Spider-Man to exist, where the symbiote and Spidey thing already happen, and we jump to Eddie Brock having the symbiote for a long while.

Three, a Logan type of situation where it takes some time in the future and Mile Morales is Spider-Man.

Basically, I think it's good idea for Sony to connect the Venom-verse to the MCU and ride its coat tails.

From what I hear, when Pascal made these comments with Feige sitting right beside her, he made some really comfortable faces.

I just checked out the video. Some are comparing it to "Sad Affleck."

WARNING: LANGUAGE

 

Or...Sony incorporates the Ghostbusters in this Universe. And they all get attacked by the dreaded Poop Emoji.

 

So reports are that Tom Holland/Spider-Man will appear in the spin off flicks; Carnage will be the villain in the Venom film and other projects to include Kraven and Mysterio.

How Sony Learned to Cede Control to Marvel on 'Spider-Man: Homecoming'

Sound likes Sony has learned its lesson with Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2, and not try to cram characters into their films to set up future films and just focus on the film at hand and make it the best as possible.

 

i have no faith in that

 

Could be worse. It could be Spider-Kids running around trying to save the day.

 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/06...ons-from-critics-are-overwhelmingly-positive?

 

Well, Spider-Girl maybe.

 

In this, they are being (mostly) accurate. The people they highlighted are almost all film journalists.

 

I thought IGN's review of GotG2 was pretty spot-on, and it wasn't completely over-the-top positive.

 

Got my tickets for the Thursday. I'm really looking forward to it, but one thing. Does he not seem really overpowered holding the two halves of the cruise chip together? Of course it could all go awry in the actual film, but it seems a little out of place to me.

 

Like Amazing Spider-Man 2, Sony has put out too many clips of Homecoming and I've seen an extended clip of this ferry boat scene and know how it's resolved. I wish I hadn't see it, so don't look for it.

I bought my tickets a week or so ago to see it on Saturday of opening weekend.

 

It's the money shot of the trailer. Nothing more. Maybe it's a dream he has?

 

No, it's not. The extended clip I saw had...

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Tony Stark/Iron Man fly in and use a good amount of small drones to push the ferry boat back together, and that's why Tony tells Peter to chill out with the super hero stuff.

 

SPIDER-MAN SPIN-OFFS VENOM, SILVER & BLACK ARE STANDALONE MOVIES SEPARATE FROM THE MCU, PRODUCER AMY PASCAL CONFIRMS

 

According to a Tom Holland interview in HuffPo (SMH easter egg spoiler):

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This kid from Iron Man 2...



...is retconned to have been Peter Parker.

 

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Welllll...it sounds like a bit too much, yeah. But it's not impossible either. Time flows in a more realistic manner between MCU movie releases after all. So yeah, if they want to roll with that kid being lil' Petey Parker, sure, why not?

 

I do think Hardy will be awesome but I was kinda hoping the Sony-Spidey-verse would be like the TV-MCU to film-MCU. Well, I guess one COULD see it that way still anyway, it's not as if the Sony spinoff character would pop up in the MCU anyhoo. One shot of Holland as Spidey is pretty much all you need to put it in the MCU.

 

Spider-Man Actually Debuted in the MCU Years Before Civil War

 

Well, I guess our use of spoiler tags a few posts above was as pointless as this "reveal".

 

I stayed away from those spoiler tags above, until you mentioned it.

I wonder if it will play into Homecoming, as it didn't play into Civil War. However, it does steal a bit of Uncle Ben's thunder of "with great power comes great responsibility."


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