Amph Star Trek Beyond

I think Star Trek 09 is a legitimately great movie. It doesn't require any foreknowledge of the franchise to get into, it's fast paced, perfectly cast and just has a sense of wonder that an action movie doesn't really have these days. I also believe that despite its terrible script JJ Abrams made a well directed movie with Into Darkness. It has some very pretty imagery and, once again, it had fantastic performances.

The problem with these movies is that they're wearing the Star Trek license as a skin. It's clear from the first Star Trek movie JJ wasn't wanting to make a Star Trek movie, he wanted to make a Star Wars movie. Bless him, he's completely honest about this fact too. So I don't see the problem with anyone actually enjoying reboot Trek. They're well made movies and, in the case of the first one, well written on a character front.

Personally I'm looking forward to the new movie. I can't deny it's a bit disconcerting to see the trailers proudly boast that it's being brought to us from the director of Fast and Furious. However if it continues the trend of providing a solid sci-fi adventure then it's giving us something better than almost 99% of the hollywood drek out there these days.

That and I have a man crush on Idris Elba, but who doesn't?

 

If you get anything around an 80% or 90% or more on rotten tomatoes you are usually talking about a pretty good film, didn't TFA get like 93% or something like that? and TFA was an awesome film! there are exceptions,
Movies

• 76%
  War Horse (2011)
  Peter Mullan, Jeremy Irvine, Emily Watson

• 71%
  Jurassic World (2015)
  Chris Pratt, Bryce Dallas Howard, Vincent D'Onofrio

these two movies I loved, the critics a mix bag and I could surely come up with more examples. I tend to go with a few main papers, and reviewers, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Hollywood Reporter, and Variety, those are really good ones to look at if they give your movie a good review count yourself lucky, you might have a good one on your hands...

 

Yes, TFA scored high on the tomatometer and I liked the film too.

 

has anyone on here seen this in a sneak peek screening or anything like that, just wondering if there are any early fan reviews?

 

I'm going this weekend. Been to the other two NuTrek so owe this one a visit too.

 

I am seeing It Saturday Evening! With The parents then we are going out for Italian!

 

I'm going to watch it tomorrow!

 

I'm going to watch it when it's on HBO or something!

 

I thought about it and decided to go with the cheap thrill of "Lights Out" tomorrow if I can make it to the movies at all.

 

If this is what I think it is...

Spoiler

that the Enterprise A is essentially the same freaking JJ-prise and was disappointed that it wasn't a newer design, you are not alone.

Overall, I think it was a good movie. I thought every major character had an opportunity to shine. Scene stealer of the movie was definitely Urban. Characters felt much more personal and the conversations that they have between each other are probably some of the best in this timeline of movies.

 

one thing I am not liking is people using this opportunity to pick on Abrams to say how much they like Trek Beyond, The same thing happened to TFA people used it as a platform to pick on George Lucas instead of review the film. I don't think that is fair, George Lucas is one of the best film makers of all time for making, Directing, Producing two of the greatest movie series of all time, Star Wars, and Indiana Jones. and Abrams is a really good film maker I loved both his Trek Movies and I cant wait to see Trek Beyond!

has anyone heard the new Giacchino score, I t Is really good!!!

 

I disagree. It's fair when you compare them as directors. There was noticeably (thank God) less lens flare in this movie. Beyond also had probably more, but definitely better, character development in it than Into Darkness. No matter how you try to polish it, Into Darkness was a good action film that wore the Star Trek brand but was a shadow of what the brand was and is, and not a whole lot more. For me the 09 film and Beyond are both good films, but JJ messed up with Into Darkness. Especially since overseeing the direction of the film is very much in the director's hands.

Justin Lin had some great vistas in this, and I think the camera work capture the character's emotion pretty well. If I had to put it simply to compare the two, Lin and Pegg (let's admit his involvement with script writing helped a hell of a lot) put a large emphasis on the characters in this film whereas in the previous two installments JJ's movies with Orci and co had a heavy emphasis on visuals. Nothing is really wrong with either approach, but I personally thought that this was probably the first movie in the new timeline that had the heart of the TOS era movies.

Also let's not kid ourselves, Lucas had some great ideas and so did Roddenberry, but neither always executed the well all the time. Examples: Prequel Trilogy and Strange Magic; Star Trek TMP and the first two seasons of TNG.

Of course, YMMV.

 

It's out in England?
Might have to get around to watching it then!

 

Yeah I was going to say it's too soon to know until Trek 13. But glad to hear from you and other Trek fans how good it is.

 

Yup, NuTrek 4 will horrify!

 

what did you like better, Beyond or TFA, or heck lets put Super 8 into the mix? and this question is for anyone on here? who is the better Director to this point, Lin or Abrams? and I don't just mean trek this goes for other things they Directed and Produced? I love Abrams and think his Style Is very Steven Spielberg and Spielberg uses lots of Lens Flares as well

 

Someone got kind of defensive there....

I like both TFA and Beyond for different reasons. They're both good films. They're both better than Super 8.


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Dangit! Yep. I did.