Amph “Let's Fly!” - Star Trek: Discovery [Paramount+/Netflix/CraveTV]

They do, but they're still very different. It's supposed to take place at the same time as the Cage. I could see them being different if it was a few years before, but not the same year. Plus they shouldn't have the Enterprise logo on it. It just seems like the producers aren't paying attention. Or don't care.

 

I might. It's like $6 a month with commercials. Of course, I'd cancel it once Discovery's season is over and I have no expectation that All Access will survive.

 

I have a history of getting into relationships for the wrong reasons and then having a terrible time calling it quits. Still have buyer's remorse for subscribing to HBO over GoT, though Last Week Tonight makes me feel a bit better. Hulu was a messy divorce. Can't do this CBS thing when I already know how quickly the romance is going to fade.

 

I see illegal downloading in the future.

 

I have Kodi ready to go.

And if I was going to go for All Access, it would be after they are all out, then they'd get binged, and All Access cancelled.

 

I will definitely get All Access for the what, 3-4 months it'll air? I hope that sends the adequate message that I like Star Trek but don't give a rip about the format it's on.

 

And if you really squint, Trump looks a bit like Superman.

Those uniforms are nothing like the Cage uniforms, not in any meaningful way. The new uniforms have more gold braiding than the TOS dress uniforms, and in fact look more like a development of Star Trek: The Motion Picture's uniforms. They've just done their own thing instead of trying to keep to the premise they set out with. It's not a deal-breaker but it is irritating.

 

If there wasn't the shot of Baby Burnham in there with Sarek, I might have thought that the big twist was the Shenzhou is from the future, given the unis, and Burnham ends up in the past and serving aboard the Discovery to try and prevent something from happening in the future (whilst still preserving the timeline)...

 

Sadly I think your right.

Im not against seeing a return to the 23rd century, but setting it only 10 years before TOS was not the brightest idea.

Put the series in a time that Kirk isn't alive yet, 40 or 50 years before TOS. Returning to prime 23rd while presenting a very early period within it that hasn't been explored yet.

 

No, I think CBS is being foolish with creating this streaming service now. It's too late!

 

Worf in DS9 drops a reference to the TOS-Klingons looking different saying "We do not discuss it with outsiders." The Klingons, as seen in Enterprise, looked like the TMP/TNG era Klingons we all know and love. then there was a virus and things happened which changed their appearance. I've personally No Prized that the "Augment Virus" is what causes the difference in appearance in Star Trek Into Darkness and now these fellas. Don't be mucking about with genetic engineering, you Klingons! (They obviously push things to the extreme considering they blew up one of their own moons in a mining accident).

Dahh! you realize now this is going to be in my head the ENTIRE time until we get more confirmation as to the plot (probably comic con). Hey, maybe Burham is Future Guy from Enterprise! I need closure on that anecdote!

Although Burnham does seem to be the one talking to Sarek in the trailer, I got the impression he was a father figure to her "You will never master Vulcan, your tounge is too human." Hey we get to hear the Vulcan language maybe, barely hear it in any of the series or the movies. (I think the story goes they got an official language for Vulcan together for TMP, and everyone kinda shrugged, but the Klingon language really took off)

 

They'll likely do what they did with another All - Access series this last year The Good Life (the spinoff to The Good Wife) and air the first episode on CBS proper to get people hooked enough to subscribe to All - Access to view the rest of Discovery on there.

 

They are airing the pilot on CBS.

 

Starz.

 

Wait what!?
https://www.polygon.com/2017/5/18/15658904/star-trek-discovery-klingon

so these are ancient Klingons? or augment klingons? I need to re read this article.

 

You know, for me the Klingons ever changing look is a bigger deal than the uniforms.

 

IIRC in TOS each insignia were supposed to represent different ships, per Gene's wishes. I don't know about The Motion Picture (I haven't watched it since Stephen Collins admitted on tape that he had sex with underage girls), but I believe by the time the other films came out (and most certainly when TNG bowed), the Enterprise insignia was made the official Starfleet/Federation insignia.

 

So we're definitely getting Discovery this year (they wouldn't put out a trailer that says "FALL!" straight up on it) one is left to speculate exactly WHEN we'll get it. I highly doubt September, CBS wouldn't really want it cluttering up with the new season launches across the networks. So I would wager CBS will air the pilot episode in November for a big sweeps 2-hour TV movie. And I would also wager, if anything, the pilot episode on CBS will get hella ratings. If anything, people check out the first episode of a new Star Trek series. I would think they'd CBS have Big Bang Theory at 8 or 8:30 to hype up (and draw eyeballs from the big audience BBT gets) and then Discovery pilot ep from 9:00 PM to 11 PM.

So, if anything, for 2 hours at some point this year, Trek will rule the airwaves on regular ole TV. At least there's that!

As for the lens-flare / slick look, I believe it's an intentional decision to emulate the look of the Kelvin films to grab casual audiences for at least a peek. "Hey, they're doing that on TV! Neat!" And pilot episodes are usually the prettiest / most expensive episodes anyway.

 

That article isn't very good. It just mentions fan speculation.
They also say that the Discovery Klingons have smooth foreheads (which isn't true, they have rigged foreheads, just not TNG-style, but rather Kelvin-style) and that TOS is set in 2364.

 

It's interesting that the name of the Klingon leader sounds similar to Kitumba, the one that was supposed to be introduced in the planned Phase 2 series.

Maybe there is a connection.

Another thought: With the Klingon Sarcophagus, i can't help but think that the Klingon Storyline in the new series is connected to the original Kahless. We never really learnt what happened with him and it was said before that at earlier times in Klingon History they mummified their dead, while for modern Klingons it is irrelevant what happens to their corpses.

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You're killing me here, Questy. "The basic lines are the same"? What do you mean by this?

The non-main Cage uniforms that you have pointed to are "the formal", which has a turtle-neck with a V-neck pullover over the top (it is not a jacket); the only similarity with the new uniforms are the gold-braid shoulder flashes. There is gold braid piping round the V-neck in the Cage uniform, while the new uniforms don't have a V-neck but have a jacket with a high (and what appears non-symmetrical) collar. The new uniforms have a "slimming" gold foil design unlike absolutely anything in The Cage (and this is not like the tiny piping that got removed from the TNG uniforms, this is a major feature that immediately catches the eye and is perhaps the most distinctive feature of the new uniforms), and they lack the rank stripes around the sleeves. And of course the trousers have gold decoration that runs down the sides of the legs, unlike The Cage uniform which sticks to the traditional black (or charcoal grey) slacks.

The "away" jacket from the Cage is completely different to the new uniforms, having a non-symmetrical fastening and no decoration aside from a single silver band on each sleeve.

The Discovery uniforms are not like any combination of uniforms from The Cage, even when you mix-n-match them. The creative team obviously didn't like the styles of The Cage and TOS uniforms and chose to completely ignore them.

 

they do all have sleeves, that's clearly a link