Star Wars and the Oscars over the past 25 years

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  1. eclipseSD Jedi Grand Master

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    Star Wars-A New Hope:

    1978 Academy Awards.

    Won:

    Best Art Direction-Set Decoration

    John Barry (III)
    Norman Reynolds
    Leslie Dilley
    Roger Christian

    Best Costume Design

    John Mollo

    Best Effects, Visual Effects

    John Stears
    John Dykstra
    Richard Edlund
    Grant McCune
    Robert Blalack

    Best Film Editing

    Paul Hirsch (I)
    Marcia Lucas
    Richard Chew

    Best Music, Original Score

    John Williams

    Best Sound

    Don MacDougall
    Ray West (I)
    Bob Minkler
    Derek Ball

    Special Achievement Award

    Ben Burtt (as Benjamin Burtt Jr.)
    For Sound Effects. (For the creation of the alien, creature and robot voices.)

    Nominated:

    Best Actor in a Supporting Role

    Alec Guinness

    Best Director

    George Lucas

    Best Picture

    Gary Kurtz

    Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen

    George Lucas

    Star Wars-The Empire Strikes Back

    1981 Academy Awards

    Won:

    Best Sound

    Bill Varney
    Steve Maslow
    Gregg Landaker
    Peter Sutton (I)

    Special Achievement Award

    Brian Johnson (VI)
    Richard Edlund
    Dennis Muren
    Bruce Nicholson
    For the visual effects.

    Nominated:

    Best Art Direction-Set Decoration

    Norman Reynolds
    Leslie Dilley
    Harry Lange
    Alan Tomkins
    Michael Ford (I)


    Best Music, Original Score

    John Williams

    Star Wars-The Return of the Jedi

    1984 Academy Awards

    Won:

    Special Achievement Award

    Richard Edlund
    Dennis Muren
    Ken Ralston
    Phil Tippett
    For the visual effects.

    Nominated:

    Best Art Direction-Set Decoration

    Norman Reynolds
    Fred Hole
    James L. Schoppe
    Michael Ford (I)

    Best Effects, Sound Effects Editing

    Ben Burtt

    Best Music, Original Score

    John Williams

    Best Sound

    Ben Burtt
    Gary Summers
    Randy Thom
    Tony Dawe

    Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace

    Nominated:

    Best Effects, Sound Effects Editing
    Ben Burtt
    Tom Bellfort


    Best Effects, Visual Effects
    John Knoll
    Dennis Muren
    Scott Squires
    Rob Coleman


    Best Sound
    Gary Rydstrom
    Tom Johnson (I)
    Shawn Murphy
    John Midgley (I)


    Has Star Wars been snubbed by the Academy because of the Science Fiction genre it is placed in?

    Examples of snubbing include:

    ANH not being nominated for Best Picture
    TPM not being nominated for costume design
    AOTC not being nominated for sound editing, sound, or any other awards but Visual Effects.
  2. NiktosRule Jedi Master

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    I don't know if it has been snubbed or not. I don't care if it wins awards or not either.

  3. The_Anakin_Wannabe Jedi Master

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    I think it had been snubbed and it continues to be. These movies are stand out in certain areas, far above the rest of the competition, but yet don't win.

    My life doesn't end if Star Wars don't win awards, but it frustrates me to see Star Wars being superior in one area to another film, but yet still not win.
  4. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus

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    Well, I might as well unleash my frustration here.

    I have been so dissapointed that TPM and AOTC have been snubbed of oscars. Whether you like the films or not, it's certainly clear that they deserve more nominations:

    Best Costume Design
    Best Cinematography
    Best Sound and Sound Editing (for AOTC)
    Best Art Direction
    Best Make-Up

    Those are definates. Another catagory I'd choose would be Best Score. I know in the films themselves the score is edited in many areas, however, I still consider TPM and AOTC to have the best scores of a majority of the films in the past few years.
  5. Darth_Shade Jedi Youngling

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    Star Wars deserves more awards than it gets and that is probobly because it's catagorized as Sci-Fi, or could be that the Acadamy is just not recognizing quality again...
  6. Jeff 42 Manager Emeritus

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    Examples of snubbing include:

    ANH not being nominated for Best Picture


    ANH was nominated for best picture. But it not winning could be seen as an example of SW being snubbed, as could ESB not being nominated for best picture.
  7. FROGURT Jedi Knight

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    IMO the reason the prequels have been snubbed is because they suck. Both films have now been nominated for Razzies. AOTC is nominated in almost every catagory from worst film to worst director to worst actors.
    These nominations vindicate how bad the PT has been so far.
  8. The_Anakin_Wannabe Jedi Master

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    Whether you like the story line or not is not up for debate.

    Costumes, Visual Effects, Music, Sound Effects for SW have always been well ahead of the competition and the PT is no different. Whether you like the CGI or not, they do some beautiful shots. You can only tell they are CGI because we know no set could be designed like that. Look at Coruscant, you cannot tell me without a bias opinion that it looks bad. We know its CGI because we know that no set could be made like that.
  9. Naccha Jedi Knight

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    I'm surprised it wasn't nominated for Sound and Sound Editing and Art Direction and Costume Design...But the Academy disses all Sci-Fi/Fantasy genre. Last year, LOTR should have won Best Picture. There really was no better picture. And many critics thought it should have won...but it didn't. Likewise with ANH, that should have won Best Picture when it came out...but the Academy is a bunch of stuffed shirts. Also, studios put out alot of mullah to campaign their pictures. George, from what I've read, hates Hollywood and the little games they play so I'm sure he doesn't do any of that brown-nosing to the Academy.
  10. DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus

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    I don't think it's necessarily been snubbed because it's sci-fi. I mean, didn't Kubrick's "2001: A Space Oddessy" win Best Picture sometime ;)

    Does anyone think that GL's independant attitude and general disdain for that classic Hollywood studio system since ANH might have anything to do with it? ?[face_plain]
  11. OBI-TWAN_KENOBI Jedi Padawan

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    now that the academy only loves musicals, would you realy want an award from them.
  12. eclipseSD Jedi Grand Master

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    2001 didn't win Best Picture, it wasn't even nominated. Oliver! won.
  13. MacIntoshyStation Jedi Padawan

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    yeah GL playing by his rules outside the normal studio system probably hurts come oscar time

    everybody says that's all politics for the Oscars. Probably help to pretent to care about Holywood politics then.
  14. Lady__Skywalker Jedi Knight

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    I do think that the PT has been snubbed for nominations. The costumes and sound has been far superior to the winners/nominees in their years.

    GL is anti-Hollywood, critics fear him...
  15. The_Anakin_Wannabe Jedi Master

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    now that the academy only loves musicals, would you realy want an award from them

    I heard George decided to suck up to Hollywood for E3 and has turned it into a musical. After Ewans success with Moulin Rouge we may just see best picutre coming around :p
  16. dehrian Manager Emeritus

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    On Wednesday , even Hollywood Reporter was saying that AOTC was snubbed by the Oscars.
  17. threepio_mania Jedi Knight

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    Who cares if Star Wars has been screwed by the Oscar people or not? They usually never give awards to the movies people really like anyway, just the artsy fartsy ones critics praise until we are so damn sick of it.

    The Lord of he Rings is going to get screwed again at the Oscars.:(
  18. Latorski Force Ghost

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    I agree the prequels have been snubbed in the technical categories.

    I didn't used to be this way for Lucas, however, The original trilogy won its share of Academy Awards. Both American Graffiti and Raiders of the Lost Ark got best picture nominations. Lucas even won a lifetime achievement oscar in the late 80s.
  19. Batty4btman Jedi Knight

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    Well at least ANH won all of those Oscars, GL should be happy and honored that his films were chosen as the best. It is a great achievement even to be nominated.
  20. JediHunterCommand Jedi Master

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    The thing about the Oscars is that they are aimed at "artistic" films. Drama, etc.

    The only SW film that could win best picture on the strength of its drama is ESB, in my opinion, and there I think it was snubbed a bit. But in my mind the others don't deserve best picture.

    Best score, now -- I'm pleased to see that John Williams hauled away three. No problems there!
  21. JangoxFett Jedi Knight

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    IMHO the people that vote Oscars are NOT Sci-Fi Fans. All they like is Films about Dancing/Singing, War Storys and Chick Flicks.

    Just look at there track record so far.

  22. RahrKast Jedi Knight

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    Well, if I take a look at some of the movies that won Oscars, I'm quite happy SW didn't win that many. Of course, the Academy hates all those great movies like LOTR and SW.
    What I'm really worried about is those people who simply judge movies after the Oscars they have. (I know a few...)
  23. superxero88 Jedi Padawan

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    You see, it's really simple
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    THE OSCAR GUYS AND GRAMMY GUYS ARE OLD!!!!!!
    Until they die and all of us become Academy Members and GL makes 7, 8, and 9, WE OR ANY OTHER POPULAR-AMONG-THE-WHIPPER-SNAPPERS will never get a non-technical Oscar.

    Boycott the old people shows, watch the MTV Award Shows.

    and a side note: we'll see the original OT on DVD before EP3 gets a major Oscar.
  24. Captain-Atreides Jedi Knight

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  25. AERYN_SUN Jedi Grand Master

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    It shocked me too SW lost out to Lord of the Rings for Visual Affects. I'd never seen the new LotR movie, but isn't the whole movie shot on location as supposed to against a blue screen? Doesn't visual affects mean something is done in computer?

    Well, the ont thing every Sw fan can be happy about is by the time the third Sw prequel comes out, a LotR movie won't be bside it because the trilogy will be finished by then.

    ~aeryn
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