Thanks everyone. I'll remember to bring the picture that proves my story of how I earned the Pen Guin name. it's complicated, and i still don't think I flogged the traitor enough. We were mostly a very unstructured group, though through the years i became a 'high ranking' 'officer' ... evenatually earning the title of Immoral Officer. I made sure no one behaved. i even very nearly got kidnapped by a Klingon [we crossed universes a lot.] The Dark Jedi began when Alex [the Grand Poohbah of the BF] and I found a grey English cloak at a garage sale in San Francisco... I borrowed it nad my mother made a pattern and did a darker grey replica. No hood, but I've made a lightweight black cloak with a hood, so I just need to hem that thing [my machine broke... well okay, I broke it, but it's fixed now] and i can wear it under the grey. Now, I don't have all my costumes here, as the majority of my stuff is still at my parent's house in CA. The basic parts of the outfit are a bit more militaristic than normal Jedi stuff. Once you see pictures, you may understand why. Oh yeah... I also designed my own light saber... doesn't look a thing like the movie ones, but then I got Kevin Anderson's approval in person. I'm going to re-do it however, because the boys were in bad form and broke it. Boy do i have stories... Merry Christmas, Pen Guin "Leave my flippers alone!"