Speculation Star Wars Episode 7 Plot Ideas

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Spoilers Allowed' started by DarthRuss, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. natureboy76 Jedi Grand Master

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    I guess it's been about fifty years since TCW and I don't know how fast Ahsoka's species ages so maybe she will still have a shot in her 70's ;) Isn't Chewbacca like 200 or something? Maybe I'm thinking of Spock from Trek lol
  2. Palpy daugther Jedi Padawan

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    I think that 7 would not be odd clear who the villain and the Sith. 1 .... As part of the ... Death Star appear in the 8 or 9 episodes. Tradition .... And yet - how can the movie JJ "Lost" will returns to the events in the past (1-6 episodes). Then Palpatine and Vader will appear in the film ...
  3. Julian Skywalker-Solo Jedi Master

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    LOL. And that ladies and gentleman, is how you make a sequel trilogy worse than the prequel trilogy.

    I thought you were serious for a second & then I saw some of your other posts around the forum & realized you couldn't be.
  4. Immortiss Chosen One

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    Well it's nice to know that you can read and write.

    Better ideas?


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  5. Julian Skywalker-Solo Jedi Master

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  6. Immortiss Chosen One

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    I'm not a serious writer. I'm just spitballing. Sometimes you hit it, but most of the time you don't. Obviously I struck out, but hey why don't you pitch a few yourself. Or at least tell me why it's so bad.:p

    Edit: BTW-a couple people liked it or maybe they were just being kind.
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  7. Julian Skywalker-Solo Jedi Master

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    The Padme/Anakin force netherworld thing & zombie Luke Skywalker. It's just really out there. Especially the Padme/Anakin thing because it was pretty clear they didn't belong together. And it sounds more like Greek Mythology and LOTR than Star Wars.
  8. Immortiss Chosen One

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    Well in all fairness SW does have magic, wizards, ghosts, a little green wiseman, sorcerers, prophecies and witches. You know, really out there.

    I always thought Lucas' Star Wars drew heavily upon Greek mythology, fables and fairy tales. Especially other worldly stories like LOTR. Is this not the case?

    It was clear they didn't belong together, but I think the idea expresses a way the ST could alter our understanding of the story that we know will now be sequelized. Is that a word?

    Best.


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  9. Darth Archimage Jedi Grand Master

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    I've always thought the death of Padme was very bazaar, I would not be opposed having a better resolution than what we have to this point. I think Anakin probably deserves it.
    I'm also not sure it was clear that Anakin and Padme didn't belong together, I think Palpatine made sure it didn't work, in order to help turn Anakin. More importantly, there would be no Luke without Padme.
    Luke doesn't have any romantic relations, but he definitively shows love and compassion toward his friends and Father, I believe he could make it work with a wife.
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  10. Immortiss Chosen One

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    Yes, this is a story about a family that didn't have a chance. It was broken before it had a chance. Many of the reasons were beyond their control with greater forces at work. The separation and unification of the family, albeit in the Netherworld of the Force is a powerful and fitting theme. It could easily be a goal of our heroes and one consequence of the resolution in the defeat of the antagonist. A Master of the Sith character who's responsible for these tragic events. Personally I think it rounds out the story for not only Padme and Anakin, but Luke and even Leia as well. Magic.
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  11. Darth_Zidious Chosen One

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    I give you points for originality. :)
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  12. JediMatteus Force Ghost

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    actually i really like this. My instinct is that your plot is superior to the real plot, as there is no jedi order after 30 freaking years.
  13. Myself656 Force Ghost

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    May as well throw my hat into the ring.

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    After the fall of the Empire, the galaxy broke into thousands of regional governments and the Alliance has been working hard these past 30 years to bring as many of these governments together so they can eventually form a New Republic. A cause for concern has been a growing number of attacks by 'Reavers' (animalistic space marauders) in the lightly defended Outer Rim territories, but they're being dismissed as a major threat because they lack the organization and numbers. On a personal level, the difficult work of building a Republic and personal tragedy has estranged Han and Leia from each other, but in an effort at reconciliation, Han and their daughter Daisy are rendezvousing with Leia on the world of Manadlore that Leia is en route to in an effort to secure Mandalore's membership into the Alliance.

    We pan down to Leia's ship, which echoes the Tantive-IV in design. Leia and C-3PO are on the comms with Han/Daisy who say they're inbound and should be there in ten minutes and Leia is looking forward to seeing them. In the background the ship's captain is talking to Leia's Chief of Staff (Gleeson) and dismissing the prospect of the Reavers being any kind of threat. As if on cue, a huge Reaver vessel drops out of hyperspace on top of them and starts to attack (Serkis does the motion capture for the Reavers). They latch on and start boarding, killing everyone they can reach. Leia pulls out a lightsaber and starts cutting them down while ordering everyone to abandon ship and mentions that she can feel the Force flowing through the Reavers, which surprises her. Meanwhile Han, Chewie and Daisy man the battle stations of the Falcon while trying to find a way to rescue Leia.

    Leia is holding her own as the survivors make their way to the lifepods, but then senses a powerful presence in the Force. A black-clad figure reminiscent of Darth Vader (Driver) appears amidst the monsters and is easily able to overwhelm Leia (a comment is made by Driver that Leia only got the most rudimentary of training before her Alliance duties pulled her in other directions). CoS Gleeson sees Driver take Leia prisoner before he and C-3PO escape in a pod. After they eject, Driver removes his helmet and Leia has a look of horror as she recognizes him, but the scene cuts out so we don't get to find out how she recognizes him (for now). Outside the Reavers are trying to blow escape pods out of the sky left and right with the Falcon flying cover. Daisy hears her mother's voice in her head desperately urging her to 'Find Luke' and then, as suddenly as it came, the Reaver ship turns off and jumps to hyperspace.

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    From there we have Han, Daisy and Chewie gather up Gleeson/Threepio from the planet below and determine that Leia has been captured by these Reavers who are known to never take prisoners. Gleeson, as Leia's CoS opts to remain behind in order to try and complete Leia's mission of negotiating an alliance with Mandalore's leader (Von Sydow, an uncooperative bureaucrat type who believes Mandalore can stand alone against any threat while Gleeson must try to persuade himthey they need to band together now that the Reavers are clearly organizing). As part of this subplot Gleeson ends up having to ally with a slightly more pragmatic Mandalorian warrior (Christie) to see Von Sydow removed from power (Nyong'o plays VonSydow's aide/bodyguard).

    Meanwhile Daisy tells Han about hearing Leia's voice and the message to find Luke. Han doesn't want to hear it because 'Luke and his crazy Jedi-stuff got your brother killed and I'll be damned if I let you get dragged into it too.' So Daisy approaches Isaac's character (a Mandalorian mercenary) and manages to "borrow" his ship out from under him. This leads to Han and Isaac (who wears Mandalorian armor that gets lots of double-takes from Han) to team up and pursue Daisy aboard the Falcon. Daisy arrives on Tattooine where she meets Luke's current apprentice (Boyega) and gets brought to Luke. Driver learns via a mind probe of Leia (once again Leia isn't in a position to comment on Driver's identity) that Luke has hidden himself away on Tatooine and sends the Reavers there.

    The big plot twist is, obviously, that Driver is actually Daisy's believed dead brother, who Luke tried to train, but he was impatient and went looking for shortcuts to power that would help him end the never-ending conflict the galaxy had been suffering under his entire life. What he discovered was an ancient Sith weapon (the Reavers) locked away for ages because only someone phenomenally strong in the Force could hope to control it (even Palaptine never dared try). He believed the Reavers could serve as an army to help the Alliance unite the galaxy and had the arrogance to believe he could control them. Luke arrived too late to stop him from releasing the Reavers and utterly failing to control them. The last he saw of Driver was him being dragged away by the Reavers and he was forced to bombard the facility and any means off the planet just to be certain the Reavers could never escape (until some other poor fool with a ship happens by).

    The Reavers didn't kill Driver though because they were programmed to infect other Force-sensitives with their madness to grow their numbers. It overwhelms the untrained completely, but Driver had received enough Jedi training that he was able to hold onto his identity (albeit in a twisted fashion) and exert his will (again after a twisted fashion) on the Reavers through their hive-mind. His warped mind decided that the only way to unite the galaxy was to present it with a threat so great they would HAVE to unite against it... and so he's spent the intervening years attacking poorly defended systems for supplies, transportation and unidentified Force-sensitives to grow his army of Reavers into a threat the other realms would have no choice but to unite against. Now, at last he's ready to unleash them en-mass upon the galaxy, but to truly unite the galaxy it would need a hero/leader to rally behind, but this goal is so twisted by the insanity of the Reavers that it leads to Driver targeting his own mother in order to draw Luke Skywalker into the battle.

    In the process of the final battle, Driver's push against Mandalore is stopped with help from the Alliance, but Driver escapes and Han and Leia are killed in the process.The now orphaned Daisy vows to become a Jedi in order to bring her brother to justice. Gleeson plans to continue Leia's work in strengthening the Alliance to stand against the Reavers while Luke, Daisy, Boyega, Isaac (whose own ship was destroyed during the course of the story and is sticking around until he gets restitution for it), Chewie and the droids depart aboard the Falcon to begin Daisy's training and preparation for the conflict with Driver.
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  14. Redimet Force Ghost

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    Darth Plagueis returns to reek havoc on the galaxy.
  15. K Ran Jedi Youngling

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    I like the thought of Plagueis' ideas and Palpatine's attempts at those coming back to haunt in the ST, but I hope we don't see either.
  16. Julian Skywalker-Solo Jedi Master

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    felt like doing something a little more detailed. . .

    Episode VII

    Opening Crawl establishes that Luke has established a Jedi Temple, the Solos have a daughter who is a New Republic pilot, & that the New Republic's capital is on Han's home planet of Corellia.

    Opening shot: We see a derelict Star Destroyer, engines off, large sections of hull destroyed, drifting in space, followed by a next gen Mon Calamari Cruiser. Cut to the bridge of the Mon Calamari Cruiser. We see uniformed officers of varying species adorned with blue anchorhead symbols discussing the ship, Daisy Ridley (Solo's daughter) is present in a pilot's suit with a lightsaber clipped to her hilt. It's a deep space research Star Destroyer that has been emitting a distress signal with life signs detected on board. They send a rescue shuttle over and bring back one unarmed passenger with several crates worth of cargo. The camera focuses on the cargo as the lone passenger is escorted to the medical unit & several guards are drawn to the cargo when it starts to beep & then the lids blast off & several Mandalorians emerge & dispatch the hangar crew and guards. The scene cuts to the crew escorting the loner (Adam Driver). A com message alerts them that intruders are on board, so they take the person to the bridge with the captain & Daisy Solo & seal it off. The ships main lights go off & the lighting turns red as Daisy lights her blue saber in anticipation of the invading party. Adam Driver force pulls an officer's blaster and drops everyone in the bridge except for Daisy & the Captain. The Captain starts in on how the Republic will not stand for such an act of war & is cut short as Adam Driver opens his palm to him & the captain clasps the sides of his head & collapses on his knees grunting in great pain & then falls over dead. Ridley approaches him with her saber & he pulls the saber from her and mocks her that such a novice as herself thinks she could stand up to him with that toy, as the elite Mandalore Squad burst through the door, Daisy Solo makes an escape from the bridge. The Adam Driver informs the Mandalorians that a Jedi is on board & to set course for Tatooine.

    The cruiser lands on Tatooine near Jabba's palace & Solo manages to take off in a speeder pursued by the Mandalorians. Adam Driver enter Jabba's palace, still inhabited by those creepy brain spider things. A random alien asks him who he is & he shoots them & proceeds to make his way into the depths and catacombs, revealing the graves of dead Sith & then he opens a hidden door, revealing a huge chamber filled with humans in suspended animation, weapons, suits of mandalorian armor, and vehicles.

    Meanwhile Solo on the speeder is pursued by the Mandalore into a canyon where she meets John Boyega, a local with a mysterious past, piloting a recreational next gen T-16, who assists her in navigating the canyon to evade the Mandalore & escape. He takes her to his house in Anchorhead where she explains the situation & how she needs to reach Master Skywalker as well as her parents. She tells him that she senses he is strong in the force & should join her.

    Cut back to the Adam Driver & an army of Mandalorians lead by an unhelmeted Gwendoline Christie is embarking on the Mon Calamari cruiser. Adam Driver kneels before a projection of Sydow informing him that the other ancient armies are being awakened as well.

    Cut back to Daisy Solo & Boyega & they're in Mos Eisley stowing aboard Oscar Isaac & Nyongo Lopita's ship (which Solo mentions is the same model as her Dad's old ship that had stow compartments) & their take-off is observed by the Mandalorian squad that was following Solo. The Mandalorians pursue in several stolen ships & we have our first space battle, where we see Oscar Isaac & Nyongo Lopita as a very capable crew to their ship. They discover Boyega and Solo in stow & after some initial reluctance have them help repel the invasion. Isaac realizes that he has Solo's daughter & refuses to go to Corellia, but Solo convinces him to go to the new Jedi Temple planet.

    Cut to Corellia, where we see Luke Skywalker speaking to an apprentice in a light rain about the force & about how even though the Sith and the Empire has been vanquished, he has fears that new orders of Dark Jedi may arise that could test the will of his new Jedi Order. Luke becomes attentive to the clouds & says that he feels a dark presence. The cruiser comes barreling through the atmosphere with Mandalorians jumping out of it & using their jetpacks to land & subdue. The ship lands and Adam Driver faces Luke Skywalker. Luke signals his apprentice to leave & ignites his lightsaber & Driver does the same.

    It's all foggy mountains & they hike up one to a temple shrouded in myst. Inside they're greeted by Luke's son, Domnhall Gleeson Skywalker & his young son. They find out Master Luke is unfortunately on Corellia, but that as it so happens, Han, Leia, and Chewie are present there. They discuss the attack & the history of Mandalorians, Domnhall Gleeson saying that Master Luke had taught him they were genetically engineered super soldiers that were created by the Sith but rebelled & took part in a bloody war that laid ruin to many planets. They elect to travel to Corellia to fetch Master Luke. Meanwhile Han's like "wtf, I lend Lando the Falcon for a few years and some scumbags are flying it around."

    We return to Luke fighting in the rain on Corellia, raindrops sizzling on the lighsabers, splashing in puddles and mud. Driver talks about the faults of the Sith, that the Mandalore had a vision for a new kind of dark Jedi, unhampered by emotion.

    We see scenes of Corellia getting taken over by Mandalorians & then we see a huge ship orbiting, commanded by Sydow. He talks to a hologram of a strange CGI alien played by Serkis about how the Republic is far weaker than the Empire & it was an excellent opportunity to strike. The Alien has reservations about the strength of the Skywalkers, to which Sydow replies that Driver's new order of Jedi will have no trouble with.

    Back to Falcon- Gleeson chastises Ridley for abandoning her training & practices with her and Boyega while Han & Oscar Isaac swap war stories & Lupita & Chewie play holochess. They come out of hyperspace to see the massive ship & Han knows a few maneuvers & they manage to evade the Mandalore fighters & land on Corellia in an old place Han knew about.

    Return to Luke & Adam fighting- Adam pushes Luke away & then quickly leaves. Luke realizes that he has sensed the arrival of the Falcon and gives chase.

    Meanwhile the crew talks about the situation on Corellia & unites with locals to develop a counter-attack on the ship & Daisy, Oscar, John, Lopita and others suit up to command a squad of next gen X-Wings.

    As they begin to take-off, Adam arrives and attempts to stop them, sensing the strength of the force in the group, but Domnhall lights his saber and they battle & Domnhall is cut down just as Luke arrives & as Boyega departs.

    Driver jumps in an X-Wing as does Luke, but Driver manages to evade Luke & he joins in on the counterattack, which is successful & saves the day.

    The end

    It needs some modifications- Driver and Sydow need to accomplish more than awaking an army of Mandalorians from secret places around the galaxy & taking over then losing Corellia.

    Forgot to add R2 & 3P0. R2 belongs to Daisy & 3P0 to Domnhall. Reunited at the temple.
  17. DarthPinoy Jedi Master

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    Some of the speculation/fan fic in this thread is really detailed... I enjoy reading a lot of what gets posted here, but, aside from being very brave, some of this stuff is also very long. It's tough enough to keep up with everything in these forums as is. Might be an interesting idea to try and condense some of these pitches into focused loglines.

    A compelling hero must struggle against formidable odds to achieve x. My personal word limit for loglines is 27 words, or less. But not a word over.
    :)
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  18. jedijax Force Ghost

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    I'm wondering if we aren't making the plot a bit too complicated. There's a HUGE cast ensemble and it would be confusing if people are all over the place-particularly with having the Big 3 who will have to be important.

    maybe this is as simple as a journey like the Wizard of Oz or Lord of the Rings (both HUGE influences on SW) or even King Arthur. You have the youngsters meeting up with each other at different times to go on a journey they were told not to-possibly to save Han and/or Leia. Ridley is like the "Dorothy" who leaves home and joins Boyega, Isaac, Gleeson and possibly even Driver or Nyong'o whose roles change to evil at some point. They must eventually get to "Oz" (Jedi headquarters or planet) to meet the "wizard" (Luke) to get more help.

    When all is said and done, a new Jedi order is created.
  19. JediMatteus Force Ghost

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    jedi order should be going strong after 30 or so years. otherwise it is an insult to Luke, and to Star Wars
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  20. thisguyisnotajedi Jedi Grand Master

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    I don't think no new New Jedi Order yet is such a horrible thing.

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  21. jedijax Force Ghost

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    Not necessarily. Not if the new government is still divided and the Jedi ways have been rejected due to fear over what transpired for 30 + years.

    There could be a secret group with Luke in a far off land that consists of some of the young cast and a couple of the young cast could join them later.
  22. Lord Miggler Jedi Master

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    But why ? Care to expand ?

    It was never hinted in the films that Luke should categorically re-establish the Jedi order, only that the force was strong in his family and that he should pass on what he has learned.

    I imagine they don't just pick any randoms of the streets of Coruscant to be trained, it could take years to seek out a force sensitive and what's to say Han and Leia or Luke immediately had children ? Their is a very good chance that it could be 4 fully trained Jedi with a few apprentices, given the right conditions in the story in the 30 year gap I would say a maximum of 15 and possible apprentices.

    Let's not forget that the Jedi order was greatly flawed it stand to reason that Luke could be apprehensive in trying to establish an Order through fear of making the same mistakes all over again.
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  23. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Even if some of us think it was flawed - Luke might not. How much will Yoda have told him about the OJO anyway?
  24. jedijax Force Ghost

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    As much as Anakin was the Chosen One and Luke was the last of the Jedi, it is conceivable that it would take Luke quite a while to find anyone capable of being trained as a Jedi.

    Sure there could have been others hiding out there, but Yoda said directly to Luke in ROTJ that he would be the last Jedi but not the last Skywalker. Therefore, it would take a while for (a) Luke to find anyone out there that was still able to be trained despite what Yoda said, (b) anyone who was found to come of age to make up an established Jedi order and (c) any offspring of Han/Leia OR Luke to come of age to be a full Jedi. For Luke, he would have had to find someone first because Disney wouldn't allow for Luke to just meet someone and have a kid randomly.

    Therefore it is believable that Luke may have found others out there that were Force sensitive. But while it is possible, it certainly is not required that a Jedi academy or council is anywhere close to being established by Episode VII. To me, that would cheapen the story because you get the sense that part of the continuation of ROTJ's legacy is to establish a new Jedi order-possibly beginning with the end of Ep7 but certainly culminating at the end of Ep9.
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  25. JediMatteus Force Ghost

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    I am coming from the eu stand point. I happen to like what the eu has in it, and don't want most of it tossed. Luke re-created the jedi order at the age of 27, and by the time he was 40 there were 100 jedi. Luke's legacy is the re-creation of the order, and it's survival. That is his legacy, and to toss out what he accomplished and to replace it with a blank slate, is shameful. What has Luke accomplished then? What is he known for? What then is his legacy? nothing wrong with having an academy and taking in adults.
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