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Star Wars Episode IX soundtrack discussion

Discussion in 'Star Wars And Film Music' started by Seagoat , Mar 2, 2018.

  1. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    A bit early to discuss this, true. Solo hasn't even been released yet and there's not so much as a teaser for IX. But that doesn't mean this is not a topic worthy of discussion! Plus, this thread will be a thing at some point, anyways, so

    We got confirmation a while back that Williams would return for IX, to no one's surprise. However, we just recently got some news that he's also said that IX will likely be his last SW movie. Article here: https://heroichollywood.com/john-williams-episode-ix-last-star-wars/

    While I'm saddened to hear this, I'm also not particularly shocked - and the man deserves a break. By IX's release, he'll be 87 years old. To score a whole nonology over frigging 40+ years is unheard of, and, at least in my opinion, his quality of work has been consistently stupendous, and he's certainly redefined what it means to score movies, especially with his work in Star Wars.
    So, Mr. Williams, with the greatest respect, thank you so much for all your hard work over the past four decades, and I couldn't be more excited to hear his last hurrah for SW!

    Worth noting, of course, is that it is not the last LucasFilm movie he intends to score - we've still got Indy 5 to look forward to!
     
  2. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Maybe after IX he could just do one or two themes for a movie. Kinda like Solo..


    But if IX is indeed his last. Will make IX even more emotional for me.. :(

    I hope IX has little more orchestra to it than VII-VIII.. Can't wait.
     
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  3. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Host, PT Interview Thread star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    I think IX will indeed be his last.
     
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  4. themoth

    themoth Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm sure it will be.
     
  5. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Host, PT Interview Thread star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    He’ll be 88 when the film comes out.
     
  6. themoth

    themoth Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah. It's so great he's managed to score all the Saga films.
     
  7. IlhamKamaruddin

    IlhamKamaruddin Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I really think he is going to come out with something truly special for Episode IX in honour of his journey in composing Star Wars for the past 40 years or so ( by 2019 ). I just can't imagine how emotional it will be not just watching how this amazing saga is going to end, but listening to probably one of the last scores from the greatest composer of our time. It's going to be a milestone in history. Appreciate what we have now, I guess. :)
     
  8. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm certainly glad he will be composing Episode 9. I hope all goes well between now and film release. I also think we'll get something pretty spectacular, as he knows this is his last Star Wars film. I also think JJ being back in the director's chair means the film will be spotted with JW per usual, rather than the weird way they did the score for TLJ with the temp track of SW music being given to John.
     
  9. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Jedi Master star 4

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    one thing's for sure, the end credits will be more emotional than anything in the film.
     
  10. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with that...
     
  11. Seagoat

    Seagoat PT and Music Section Dictator star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I'm also hoping for that. The full version of the ROTS end credits sort of went for that, since it was presumed the end of SW at the point. But regardless of if IX ends the Skywalker Saga or not, since JW plans on it being his last, I certainly hope he goes out with a bang
     
  12. christophero30

    christophero30 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I really liked the theme he wrote for Anakin fighting Obi Wan in ROTS. That was epic. His prequel music was amazing. Sad that this will be his last SW score.
     
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  13. dolphin

    dolphin Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Indeed, his last Star Wars score but likely not his last for Lucasfilm. There will be 1, likely two Indy movies in the 2020s (and starring Harrison Ford!). John Williams is a few years younger than composer Ennio Morricone who, incidentally, won an Oscar a few years ago.

    John Williams = Tom Brady = Lebron James

    Still great past what should be their 'primes'
     
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  14. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    @Seagoat, I am 100% in concurrence at your opening post. IMO the emotional weight of knowing IX will be JW's last SW score is moving enough, regardless of how the film itself turns out. I'm kind of a major "completionist," and I just think it's incredible that he is able to score ALL of the main saga episodes!! It would've really messed up my internal balance if he were to miss just that last one!
     
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  15. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Is it weird that I would love to hear the Throne Room Finale from ANH at the end of Episode IX? To me it seems like it could be appropriate in a few ways; we ended the first saga film released with it, and we'd end the last with it-kind of bookending the saga in that way. Also it's a very majestic and celebratory piece that really has a tone of victory and finality to it. Assuming (hopefully) Episode IX ends with an actual ending, it would fit perfectly as an iris out not only for IX, but for the saga as a whole.

    Also it's my favorite soundtrack score piece of all time...so, there's that...:p

    I know it seems like rehashing, but considering there's been so much of that done in the ST already, (opening of TLJ not the least) why not end with a bang?! If JW is up to making something new that's actually even MORE majestic to end off the whole thing, then great-but IMO these are big "shoes" to fill!


    I know this is technically a double post-but seeing as how my last post was over a month ago...........;)
     
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  16. kyloten

    kyloten Jedi Youngling

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    If I had one wish for this movie and this score, I would ask that John be given the opportunity to create his greatest score yet. His scores for TFA and TLJ were both great, but I'd love to see a little more from him on his last go. Here are a couple things that I'd love to happen:
    1) John excels when there's a scene that is benefitted by choir. His choral arrangements are stunning. I'd love to see more of that.
    2) I want an opportunity for him to create a death piece. There have been a couple major deaths in the sequel trilogy, but Han's was a too short for a full piece and Luke's wasn't sad enough for a full-blown funeral or death piece. Honestly, it could be anything as long as John rips my heart out with it like Anakin's Betrayal and the Vader vs Luke section of Battle of Endor II did.
    3) I want a battle theme! I don't think either new film has had a battle that would be benefitted substantially by its own theme. But should IX have a huge, high-stakes, emotional duel a la Anakin vs Obi-Wan, I would love a theme for it.

    Other than that, he really should just keep doing what he's been doing. I'd also love to see Qui-Gon's Funeral theme or pretty much any more of the prequel themes make a return, but I know that can't happen.
     
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  17. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I am fine with him doing more of what he's been doing. However, I want the ending music of Episode 9 to be something NEW. Not the Throne Room again, not the Binary Sunset arrangement of the Force theme again. Something new.
     
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  18. General Kenobi

    General Kenobi Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I would vote for some great new arrangement of Rey's Theme. It's one of my favorites of the saga, and we got teased with some of it's possibilities in TLJ.
     
  19. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah I could roll with that.
     
  20. Skydoll

    Skydoll Jedi Knight star 1

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    I love the end titles of ROTS for that very reason. It's about the most epic end title sequence in cinematic history! I wondered how he'd top it when TFA came out, but of course he didn't do the obvious thing, and inverted it, giving us something reflective, quiet and hopeful. Similar for TLJ, really. Williams is nothing if not the consummate storyteller, and he knows exactly what emotional undercurrents to play to when we're leaving the movie theater. But yeah, for all sorts of reasons, Ep IX is gonna be highly anticipated, but it'll be his final curtain on Star Wars... and that's going to be emotional. For me, the music's going to be one of the biggest attractions.
     
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