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Lit Star Wars Episode VII novelization

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Revanfan1, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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  2. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Heck yeah!
     
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  3. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    Finally!

    Now, who's writing?
     
  4. AdmiralWesJanson

    AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost star 5

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    Come on Luceno!
     
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  5. quinlan solo

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    http://www.scifinow.co.uk/news/star-wars-7-exclusive-james-luceno-on-tarkin-eu-canon/

    Given what Luceno says in this interview, it sounds like he's out of the loop on Ep. VII. On the other hand, Stover hasn't posted on Facebook since early August. Maybe he's been busy. ;) Alan Dean Foster might be another possibility, as Star Wars novels started with his ghost-writing the ANH adaptation, and he's written the novelizations for JJ's two Trek films.
     
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  6. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I never understood why there was such a rave about the ROTS novelization. I found it to be rushed (missing many key scenes and at some point it seemed as if Stover realized that he had a deadline and from the very detailed scenes on the Invisible Hand, the later scenes became very short-worded) and bland. I really hope Luceno comes through. No other SW author understands the universe as he does IMO.
     
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  7. Grey1

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    There were some dliberate measures to make it a better novel and not just a script-to-book adaptation; Yoda's Kashyykk plot, for example, has been omitted because it doesn't add to Anakin's (and Obi-Wan's) story. It makes sense in the movie and in the wider universe, but having two or three chapters of "this explodes, that explodes, Yoda leaves the planet" would detract from what's really going on. I imagine having the Invisible Hand part so huge in comparison to the rest of the book is because it really helps set up the characters and the basic situations.

    The most interesting thing about the novel, if you ask me, is that it finds a way to simply tell, not show about the characters, which is normally a sin in writing. Here, it's the best thing that could have happened. It also really sets the book apart from the script. Normally, movie adaptations used to be interesting for "it has that one scene that got written out and that doesn't necessarily make sense anymore".

    What doesn't really work in the novel for me, but that might just be me not knowing what Lucas really wanted at the time that he spoke to Stover, is that the fall to the dark side is a bit too strong. In the movie, I get the feeling that Anakin is forcing himself to go along with Palpatine to save his family, culminating in his tears on Mustafar when he has a moment to contemplate just how much of his soul he had to sell. In the book, it's more of a moment of clarity, and after that he's an evil punk who simply lets loose and throws corny one-liners when mowing down his victims (which has no precedence in the script whatsoever). In addition, Stover sneaks in a bit of his love of gore (no exaggeration if you've read his fantasy stuff), which tonally stands out more than everything that happens within Traitor, or even that one scene in Shatterpoint (which kind of stands out).
     
  8. Zorrixor

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    Just throwing this thought out there...
     
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  9. Grey1

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    Just keep throwing out.
     
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  10. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Axing Kashyyyk improves the story a hell of a lot. It really is a sequence that exists purely to sell toys.
     
  11. darthzac14

    darthzac14 Jedi Master star 4

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    Or throwing up
     
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  12. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Be glad I lost the image I made for the Ep7 thread last year of a cover with Adam Driver in Caedus's robes and Karen Traviss as the author. :p
     
  13. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    [face_laugh]

    Aw, man, I want to see that. Of course, if it actually happened...well, I'd just hope there were no Mandalorians in the movie. :p
     
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  14. Grey1

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    Doesn't Traviss write the second books, so it'd be Jino Solo on the cover of Episode 8?

    Maybe, but it also helps in showing a "expanded galaxy", or "wider universe", if you will. The best way of illustrating a character going through what Anakin Skywalker is going through would probably be a two hour stage performance with only one actor. If you go watch a Star Wars movie, you'd like to see a bit more, though, and the setting deliberately wants to offer more.

    And I can't help but smile when I think back that Episode I truly was a movie for Expanded Universe fans, because it was about inventing new stuff and showing more designs and ideas in that fictional galaxy, and the actual writing never really was an issue with EU publications, either. If you ask me, Darth Plagueis was written just to create Wookieepedia clicks or something.
     
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  15. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, but Allston wrote book 1. :(

    I'd love if Stover wrote all three, but barring that I'd love for JJM and Luceno to get the other two.
     
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  16. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yah, but the way you do it is that you convey the story. All the previous films limit themselves to the main characters and the primary antagonist(s). ROTS decides that Yoda is a main character some distance into the 2nd act, which is decidedly odd, and has no relevance to the story thematically either.
     
  17. BigAl6ft6

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    I've wanted to see a Timothy Zhan novelization of a Star Wars movie ever since Episode 1 was announced. Been expecting it to happen eventually. Also it would be fun to see Zhan write the first significant chunk of New EU for the ST years, it would work well since he did the first significant chunk with Heir to the Empire in the 90s.
     
  18. werpudel

    werpudel Jedi Master star 2

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    you mean throwing UP, don't you?
     
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  19. DigitalMessiah

    DigitalMessiah Chosen One star 6

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    We know this is going to happen.

    He hasn't had any other books announced since Crucible, right?
     
  20. ifleninwasawizard

    ifleninwasawizard Jedi Master star 4

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    It will be my first timing reading Denning if it's him. Though, considering I've read nothing later than HttE, I've thought about reading Crucible just to confuse myself.
     
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  21. DigitalMessiah

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  22. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Come to think of it, wouldn't it actually be much better for him to be stuck on novelization duty than writing original material?
     
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  23. Zeta1127

    Zeta1127 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't trust anyone who can completely miss the point of Traitor.
     
  24. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    But I'd like to read a novelization by someone whose writing style I enjoy. :p

    Seriously, Denning's fight scenes are sometimes so confusing that I'm just not sure I want him to write the VII novelization. Especially, with at least two parkour specialists working on the movie, with the possibility of a lot of acrobatic combat. Stover tends to be better at action scenes–except for the Anakin vs. Obi-Wan fight scene in ROTS, but that was just because the emotion was the focus more than the action. If Denning wrote any action scenes for VII, it would not only be probably emotionless, but also more or less like a Michael Bay movie–flashy, but utterly confusing and headache-inducing. Comparing Denning vs. Stover in action scenes is like comparing Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen's action scenes to Fellowship of the Ring's.
     
  25. ATimson

    ATimson Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Star Wars books, no. Simon & Schuster's catalog lists him as having a Halo novel coming out next fall.