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Lit Star Wars: Last Shot by Daniel Jose Older (Out on Apr 17, 2018)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by bsmith7174, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. Xander Vos

    Xander Vos Jedi Knight star 3

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    Do we really have to use spoiler tags in a thread specifically for discussing a book?
     
  2. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    I wouldn't be surprised (after all, Qi'ra isn't in any of the other movies, so they don't seem to be in contact. However, hasn't it yet to be explained what role Qi'ra plays and if she and Han were involved?.

    Rebel Dawn is Legends, not canon, so different continuities and different versions of the same idea.
     
  3. UnshavenWookie14

    UnshavenWookie14 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Everyone’s using a uff from the books to discuss one thing really. Might as well just start a spoilers allowed thread for the conversation.


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  4. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    For @Sinrebirth One Canon project who is trying to make it all fit.
     
  5. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh, didn't realize that.
    IMHO, at this point, canon and Legends have diverged so much that a syncretistic approach to it has become impossible. Mileage may vary, of course.
     
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  6. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    You don't know the power of the Sinny side of the Continuity.
     
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  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    The six Solo novel(s) take place across 10 years, so it could be said that he hands the Falcon back to Lando... maybe, maybe. I want to see the film first etc.


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  8. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    What? What kinda internet poster are you?
     
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  9. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    My expectations ruin things; thus, I abandon them.

    May as well be reasonable!


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  10. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 7

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    Reasonable, eh?

    <Looks it up>

    Ah, here we are - you're on the Internet endangered species list.

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  11. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Master star 4

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    Finished the book. It was okay? I think I’d rank it towards the bottom of the new canon novels just above Ahsoka.

    There were parts I liked not overall it felt like a bit of a chore to get through. Highlights were definitely Peekpa and Taka.

    I wasn’t entirely sold on Han or Lando’s characterisation.

    Glad others loved it though!
     
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  12. Link1130

    Link1130 Jedi Master star 2

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    I agree entirely. The jumping back and forth, sometimes even every other (short) chapter, was really jarring and pulled me out of the story every time. For the longest time, none of the flashbacks particularly felt import or meaningful to the main plot in the "present" time. Even once it became apparent what the exact connections were, they largely fell flat and felt superfluous. The actual connection could have simply been explained in a couple of lines of dialogue. Or, even better, I think they probably could have just ditched the past connection entirely and drew Han and Lando into this thing in a more effective way. The flashbacks honestly just felt to me like a shoe-horned attempt to tie this in to the characters in roughly the same era as the Solo movie.
     
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  13. tatooinesandworm

    tatooinesandworm Jedi Knight star 3

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    The Lando/L3 section reeks the most of “mandated media tie-in” and the ending of the book would have probably played out exactly the same if the Lando/L3 chapters were exorcised from the book completely.

    I enjoyed the Young Han chapters because they were fun, but I agree that they could have probably been shortened and more attention given to the current post ROTJ timeline.


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  14. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Works for me. For now anyway. ;)
     
  15. Guidman

    Guidman Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Finally finished it. Thought it was pretty good. Certainly liked the interactions between Lando and Han. The new characters that were introduced were good too. Didn't like the Maguffin in it or the villain. Also, these non-linear novels aren't my favorite. Between this and the Phasma novel, just give me a straight forward timeline. I don't need to be jumping back between times every chapter.
     
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  16. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Probably feels like that because that's exactly what it is

    you could say that about the entire existence of almost every new canon novel so far if we're being honest about it. It's the future of Star Wars literature, tie-ins to get people who are interested in the movie to spend more money, pretty much.
     
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  17. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    If the novels are good, does it matter?
     
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  18. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Impossible to answer. Matter to some? maybe. Matter to others? maybe not.

    IMO I don't think it really does but it's hard to tell until we actually start getting novels that are good
     
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  19. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    But we've had good novels, with a lot of them not tying into other media.
     
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  20. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Obviously that's a matter of opinion. I don't think we've had many good novels at all in the last few years. New canon started strongly with Tarkin, A New Dawn, Lords of the Sith (Heir to the Jedi was garbage) but since then it's been one disappointment after another. Catalyst and Thrawn were pretty good. Bloodline ok. From what I remember the rest has been bleh.

    In my opinion of course. Clearly this is a subjective measure.
     
  21. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Approaching Storm existed to excite people for Ep II, Labyrinth of Evil for Ep III. All the Republic Commando novels owe their existence to a tie-in for a video game, same with The Old Republic novels, the KotOR comics, Ruins of Dantooine, The Force Unleashed I&II. Comics were done for the Ewoks, Droids and both Clone Wars cartoons. X-Wing games begat X-Wing novels and comics. Shadows of the Empire was a gamble to see if they could get movie-level hype (and sales) by doing everything but a movie. The Clone Wars multimedia project kept the hype going between movies. The entire publishing program exists to build the brand. It's not new, that's just no ongoing multi-book series to give us a counterpoint to the more obvious tie-ins right now.

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  22. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well, obviously. That's exactly what I said. I wasn't suggesting that tie-ins never happened before, just that now it's almost all that is happening.
     
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  23. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Soliloquist of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Well I mean the franchise has changed; LFL has adopted the MCU slogan of "everything is connected" and refined the process to a ridiculous extent. So even standalone stuff will tie into other works in some fashion, just with the extent to which it ties in varying from work to work.

    And that doesn't mean there aren't standalone stories anymore, not in the slightest. Nor does it mean the books and comics are second fiddle to the movies and TV shows. Sure the movies bring in the most money, but I think LFL have shown at this point that they're not afraid to let the tie-in material grow and thrive on its own.
     
  24. EmperorHorus

    EmperorHorus Jedi Knight star 3

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    I would disagree with that. If anything I think they're showing the opposite. Could be we just have different understandings of what exactly that means.
     
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  25. Outsourced

    Outsourced Jedi Master star 4

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    How so? We're at a point where characters from cartoons are bridging the gap into movies, book characters are going to TV, and comic characters are getting into books. Tie-in material is now considered just as important to the overall narrative.
     
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