Discussion in 'Literature' started by JoinTheSchwarz, May 20, 2013.
I don't even know if I'm the opposing team or the ball.
You are a bunch of people that want to ruin Sabine.
The Sabine short seems curious.... I liked the Chopper one better, though. I wonder though if we'll see Sabine treat the Empire less frivolously as the Galactic Civil War wages on? Where it all stops being fun and games for her?
I hope that will be part of her process as she matures and get's older within the series. Plus, we don't know what happened to her in the past and how the Empire affected her. Maybe this happy, artistic and reckless personality is her way of dealing with grief.
I'll point out -- since it seems unclear -- that the explosive she used did conventionally detonate before the paint came through -- and the stormies were suffering a blast concussion afterwards. It was definitely a real explosive; it's not all fun and games for her.
Happy, artistic, and reckless are certainly accurate, though.
Re-watching the clip, the blast completely shreds the TIE fighter and sends the debris flying, but all of the Stormtroopers are alive and conscious, if knocked down and repainted. Maybe it was a breaching charge of sorts, a directional explosive with the front side loaded to blow apart what it was attached to and the rear packed with paint.
Interestingly enough, Greg Weisman has noted on twitter that both this and the first short "Machine in the Ghost" were written by him, and that this short's original title was the more artistic "Her Smile". EDIT: He also voiced the Stormtrooper officer with the orange shoulder pad.
I liked the clip, I didn't think I was going to like her personality, but I do.
Of course, the Stormtroopers level of incompetence is definitely strong with this one.
It is an even stranger universe where you need a license to sell fruit.
And -- aw £#&%, we're living in it.
I think we're saying that "good guys" don't have to be serious and principled.
What is your problem with spray paint?
Rebels has an official release date and time: http://www.starwars.com/news/star-w...-premieres-friday-october-3-on-disney-channel
Let's not forget that the rebels in episode IV blew up an entire Death Star, effectively killing who-knows-how-many soldiers, personnel, and presumably families that were aboard. And then proceeded to blow up yet another one a few years later. We didn't have a problem with their violent tactics then.
An interesting thing that Rebels is fast highlighting is how old the OT actually is thematically.
There's something rather interesting seeing how things that were easily brushed aside in the 70s are much more closely scrutinised these days.
I like the idea of families living on a remote space military installation named the "Death Star". Surely this will be a good community to raised the kids in.
"Some families watch fireworks, mine watch Alderaan exploded."
Making the destruction of the Death Star a war crime was stupid when Karen Traviss tried to do it in one of the LotF novels, and it's still stupid. It's a karking secret military installation. This isn't Star Trek TNG; there are no families and no civilians on secret military installations.
That's not to say everyone on the Death Star was bad and deserved it; but it's a totally legitimate military target, by even the most stringent laws of warfare. There is no ambiguity there at all.
I wouldn't actually put it past the Empire housing families on there. Planting weapons around civilians and using them as human shields seems right up a despicable organisation like the Empire's street.
If they didn't even attempt to leave after seeing Alderaan go boom, why exactly is it that they didn't deserve to die?
Let's ask Master Windu on the matter...
Well there you have it, but he might be a little bias.
He could have been more reserved, but he's not wrong.
The strange thing with the Death Star... how much would you actually see if you lived there? It's not like there were lots of pretty penthouse apartments on the surface... it didn't even seem to have that many windows. That's the scary thing with dictatorships; it's the people living in them that often have no clue what's actually happening.
I actually think it'd be quite fitting for the Empire, like the Nazis it was based on, to have kept its own citizens largely clueless about what was happening right under their noses-- and doing that to people living on the Death Star itself would be quite a poignant metaphor for that. It was one of the most interesting parts I found when I watched Der Untergang earlier this year, as it shows how the people living in Berlin itself were kept pretty clueless-- like those right in most dictator's pockets usually are.
Something like a Caamasi housing program in the waste recycling/detention block levels.
Definitely. We have a discussion over here from time to time about decades-old children's books being updated to be more politically correct, which one side of the argument obviously sees as a special edition-like culture crime. I'm actually undecided about whether I better like art unchanged over the ages or children confronting difficult issues in the right context, not in some book they read "unsupervised". But the one thing I did notice is that I'm not sure why a kid from today should read decades-old children's books for entertainment, especially if it's just out of some sense of superiority of the parents' generation and the nostalgia for their childhood moments. And yes, teaching kids about old times would be good, but denying that times have changed isn't helpful.
And in Death Star, those who did find out were quick to find a way to leave.
Yes, because choosing to live in a military installation called the Death Star is very healthy.
What was it called in Detours? I'm drawing a blank. A mall or something?