A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

So all those "Save the Clone Wars" trolls on Facebook who said that Rebels represented the "Disneyfication" of Star Wars were actually right?

 

They were not all trolls just butthurt.

 

Oh, if I only had seen this...

 

I might agree more if that was actually what Kanan and Ezra where like personality wise, but there not and there has been very little flipping around with lightsabers for them, they mostly have gotten by with other skills.

Now, of course you could argue that then there was no need to make them Jedi in the first place, but I would argue that it shows perfectly that Jedi characters can be done with more depth well and not come out boring or unlikable in the new era.

 

Absolutely, and the whole point of the OT is undone by virtue of the scores of Jedi who survived the purge because we can't not having superpowered ninjas in Star Wars. Apparently.

I would say that the show would be a thousand percent better if neither Kanan nor Ezra had force powers.

 

Well also, if Kanan was all worried about hiding it, pulling his Force penis out in the first episode was a bit of a let down. The story would be better served by Kanan constantly fighting his Force abilities and then, int he third season, reluctantly using them.

 

Yeah, also incredibly boring.

 

can I take credit for mutating the thanks obama meme? I think I was the first, right?

I need this

 

Even better, if WE didn't know he was a Jedi. Maybe just Ezra and some storyline trying to get him to Kenobi or something.

But yeah, that's what made me reluctant on this show at first. I like my jedi extinct, thanks.

 

First episode.

"No, Kanan!"
"Wannnnggggggg"

 

Maybe not at first. But long after it was absolutely clear TCW wasn't coming back, and they were still there spamming the comments every time the Rebels page posted anything...yeah, they were trolls.

 

Not all of them at least.

 

To make it clear, I'm not maligning all TCW fans (of which I am one) by any means, nor those who may have started STCW with noble intentions. By "trolls" I'm specifically referring to those who turned it into a harassment campaign later on.

 

Hey, it was easy to be mad when Fox basically never understood Firefly and started meddling with the show from the beginning, which is why a lighthearted episode, The Train Job, was the first episode that aired, even though the much darker two part episode, Serenity, (not to be confused with the sequel film) was the actual pilot.

 

Ah. The certain point of view tactic all LFL employees take even when they don't have to.

What annoys me is how we treat that line as anything other than nonsense. About 30 minutes after Obi Wan tells Anakin that only Sith deal in absolutes he tells Anakin that the Chancellor is evil. What, but an absolute judgment is that?

Was Obi Wan referring to the idea that only Sith rigidly categorize things and people while Jedi categorize things depending on context of the moment? What proof was there of that in the prequels? Who and what Palpatine considered an enemy always depended on the moment. One minute someone was his ally until the next when that someone was his enemy.

If the Jedi had no absolutes than what were they fighting for? Why fight the Emperor at all? Just get used to the changes coming in society and find a way to deal with it. They were only a threat because they fought for ideals, which if they didn't feel they should be absolute in some concrete way, they wouldn't have fought for and would not have been a threat.

It is Palpatine himself that accuses the Jedi of being dogmatic and rigid while proclaiming to embrace a larger view of the voice. If anything, Obi wan and Palpatine both accuse the other side of being rigidly dogmatic and there is some irony in that, but only Palpatine can legitimately claim that the Sith are not.

Filoni, let's leave Obi Wan's line as just what it is: and emotional, nonsensical line said in the heat of the moment that maybe adds a slight touch of irony to the story considering its what the Sith accuse the Jedi of being. (of course in reality being nothing but an awkward, parting backhanded insult at the Dick/Bush administration )

Let's just call it what it is: Yoda and Ben in their old age are liars that say what they need to in order to manipulate others into doing what they feel needs to be done. I'm completely okay with that. I even understand how, as people age, lying become easier than telling the truth when trying to navigating through life. Obi Wan and Yoda are imperfect, fallible individuals. I can accept that they lie. I don't think it makes lying right but I understand why people do it.

It makes the one (so far only Luke) Yoda and Obi Wan lie to seem even that more noble in the end.

What I don't need is a PR spin making the lies seem like something noble.

I'm perfectly happy with there being more Jedi and ignoring Yoda's line.

 

Not buying Force and Destiny, are we?

 

I don't mind Kanan because my longest-lived WEG character was a Failed Jedi.

 

Yeah, Ender Sai, you're citing WEG as a reason against having Jedi... but it had a whole selection of Force-using character types! Looking at Rebels through that lens was actually what helped me come around to accepting it having Jedi characters in the first place, before I even started watching it.

Although - the fact that he's a drunk in AND aside - I'd call Kanan closer to a Minor Jedi than a Failed Jedi, myself.

 

Spoiler

So that ending was essentially the first season finale of Avatar: The Last Airbender mixed with the finale to Tron: Uprising, especially the very end. I loved every second.

 

I have nothing to add to this. BECAUSE IT WAS SOOOO AWESOME!