Full Series Star Wars Rebels Season 3 Discussion (Spoilers Allowed)

Just an FYI, the Empire actually loses the war. The Death Stars are both destroyed and the entire Galactic Empire crumbles to dust. Thrawn and the cause he represents is defeated in a few short years.

 

I feel like, realistically, should Kallus and Zeb be killed off, it should be together, in some sort of situation pertaining to the Lasat in a way that fully redeems Kallus for the Lasat genocide. That would work. POW POW WOW AN AT AT JUST BLOWED UP ZEB in the middle of the Battle of Attolan doesn't.

 

I think at this point it may be more about Thrawn vs Kallus, both seem to have personal scores to settle and driven by ego & pride, varying degrees of fanatism and combat.

 

Which is somewhat different from Legends Thrawn:

Heir to the Empire 20th Anniversary commentary:


7: So here at last we have all the pieces that went into the creation of Grand Admiral Thrawn.
He's competent and capable, enough so that his troops can be assured that they have the best possible chance of winning whatever battle they're sent into.
He cares about his troops, and they know he won't sacrifice them for nothing.
And he's driven by logic and reason, not anger or ego or wounded pride.
Throw in the semi-mystical art thing (through which he can anticipate his enemies' moves), and make him an alien (because the Emperor disliked aliens, and would never give such a rank to one unless he was really, really good), and, when you've done all that, Grand Admiral Thrawn simply falls out of the equation.


Maybe ego and pride won't be major factors after all.

 

He does say he's after results and not glory... unlike Konstantin

 

He can certainly show anger without being driven by it - the Hera's Heroes episode, with Thrawn's reaction to Captain Slavin's behaviour, typified it quite well.

 

He's definitely repressing anger. In a professional setting he certainly won't show it or allow himself to be driven by it -instead bottling everything up in an attempt to keep his head clear, and probably why he had that little outburst.

Probably something we will learn more about in the Thrawn novel.

And going back to the topic of how Kallus's score should be with Thrawn now - I think a story of Thrawn finding the Lasat stronghold in Wild Space would settle all those threads at the same time.

 

Kallus said, "fighting over glory", while Thrawn smugly says " I do not require glory, only results for my Emperor". So yes, its about glory and ego, Thrawn made an attempt at justifying this action as a logical course towards a means to an end. And it still amounts as glory for his Emperor. And he said, " I'm not accepting surrenders at this time, I want you to know failure, utter defeat, and it is I that delivers it crashing down upon you". He also later told Kallus, "You and I are not the same Kallus, as these Rebels are about to learn". Moreover his actions speak louder than words. While there is some similarity with EU version, it certainly not same character fellas.

 

Obi-Wan Kenobi, a main character of the saga, was offed in the first movie of the OT.

 

But at the time audiences knew him for like 40 minutes total

 

When ANH first came out, Obi-Wan was certainly not a main character. He was just the old hermit who sacrificed himself. Also this isn't a movie trilogy, it's too long to kill off main characters this early. Clone Wars was the same way.

 

I think somebody should make a list about how many ships the Rebels lost in this episode!

 

Not a main character? I saw the OT first and ya he was.

And TCW had dozens of important characters it juggled.

Ziro = Died in his 4th episode
Savage = Died in his 8th episode
Satine = Died in her 8th episode
Fives = Died in his 14th episode
Waxer = Died in his 3rd episode
Father = Died in his 3rd episode
Son = Died in his 3rd episode
Daughter = Died in her 2nd episode
Even Piell = Died in his 3rd episode
Hevy = Died in his 2nd episode
Onocando Farr = Died in his 4th episode
Steela Gererra = Died in her 4th episode

Compare that to the Rebels protagonists who have survived around 50 episodes!

 

The TCW characters were main characters for the stories they were in.

That's the difference, they didn't stay around too long and take danger out of the show.

 

Does TPM count as an episode? Even Piell was in the Naboo celebration, standing near Yoda.

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Sure lol

 

ESB is considered by many the best movie.

and the Thrawn Trilogy the best series of books.

The fundamentals of drama are missing from Rebels.

 

Clone Wars focused on multiple minor characters like the ones you listed, the only one I'd consider a main is Fives and he died in season six. Did any of the actual main characters die? Ahsoka? No. Rex? No. But was it still a good series? Absolutely! Rebels has had plenty of minor characters die just like the minor characters you listed for the Clone Wars. Gar Saxon, Morad Sumar, The Inquisitors, Those two officers from season one. And now a few more in the finale. We're only three seasons in and I'm sure more important players will die, but it's still too soon.

 

One thing i wonder is that we don't got all Thrawn scenes and lines from the trailers.

Scenes:

Spoiler

I thought Pablo confirmed that we would see this scene in this season?



Well and the line: ,,We will show the galaxy what happens to those who dare speak against the emporer!"

 

I thought that the first shot was just for celebration to reveal Thrawn to the audience.
As for the second shot the same probably, but I cannot say. And the line was already used in the Secret Cargo.

 

Ahsoka was due to die but Filoni argued Lucas out of it.

With Rex (Gregor and Woolffe) they have been brought back in Rebels though how they got there Chips out and somehow missed out on Order 66 has not been bothered to be explained.

 

Pablo said it's from the series.

 

Missed the last 15 minutes because my parents came home and wanted to watch hockey. Did Thrawn die?

 

Nope.