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A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JoinTheSchwarz , May 20, 2013.

  1. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Jar Jar Binks is a founding father of the Galactic Empire and I will brook no disrespect.
     
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  2. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    If, as he claims, Rex never kept count of the battle droids he took down, I shudder to think what the tally marks on his helmet are for.
     
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  3. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    Like I said when TCW was good it was good but when it was bad it was bad.So no It was certainly not nostalgia. In fact one issue TCW did have but is ALSO on Rebels, is having a scene/moment but not caring how you set up that scene to get to it. That's more a Filoni problem rather than a show one though.

    Also I don't feel that saying "Oh but this show did it too" is a good rebuttal either. It's not cancelling the other out, merely saying both have a problem. Also even the Sepratists had different levels of competency, the Empire is just simply written as incompetent.
     
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  4. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    When comparing the shows, I´ve seen many fans and some reviews ignore the fact that the same problems affecting Rebels were present in TCW. That was my point, not saying "oh but this show did it too". I wasn´t rebutting anything, just pointing that fact. Like I said, I just found interesting the conversation because you gave arguments to explain your opinion that made sense to me, so I was curious about the comparison I was making and the different readings both shows sometimes get, that´s all.
     
  5. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    I bet Imperial history just calls him a "senator from Naboo" and all official art depicts him as a human.
     
  6. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    Argh I get you. I'd misunderstood the post. Well in regards Anakin, even though we knew what would happen, It gave the opportunity to tell something that hadn't been told in the PT, The good man etc.Rebels isn't adding to the story, it's merely contradicting it while trying to show it up.

    Regards Ahsoka though we genuinely didn't know if she would be killed off. Particularly as that was Lucas original plan with Filoni arguing against it. So I don't think it was that cut and dried. Compare that to the Rebels crew which seem so untouchable you don't feel any tension in any scene they are in. Hell they have busted in and out Imperial complexes the show even made a joke about last season.
     
  7. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Bu-bu-bu-but what do you mean 2 weeks from now? Why are we skipping a week? If it was mentioned in the video I must've missed it. This is an outrage! A travesty. What will I do while I have breakfast Sunday morning? Read? Like some filthy Outer Run commoner?
     
  8. AndrewPascoe

    AndrewPascoe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Bu-bu-bu-but what do you mean 2 weeks from now? Why are we skipping a week? If it was mentioned in the video I must've missed it. This is an outrage! A travesty. What will I do while I have breakfast Sunday morning? Read? Like some filthy Outer Rim commoner?
     
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  9. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Bit disappointed by the question they chose to answer this time... Yeah, there are three Antilles. But everyone knows that, right? I'm pretty sure there were more interesting questions than that...
     
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  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Like Ewok questions?
     
  11. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yes. A good one would be: when will you at last canonize the two Ewok movies and the cartoon? :p
     
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  12. tatooinesandworm

    tatooinesandworm Jedi Master star 3

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    The movies are canon. Don't question it.


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  13. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I wish they were, believe me.
     
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  14. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    You'll get a very distorted view of fandom if you judge it just by what people in Lit think/know. I can't tell you how often I've seen that confusion about Captain Antilles.


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  15. Bly

    Bly Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    To say nothing of all the people asking where the Bothans were at in Rogue One...
     
  16. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    You assume the general audience for the show are message board crawlers and readers of All The Things. For someone who just watched the movies, the TV shows, and then picked up Ahsoka as their first SW book because of Rebels ... how would they have known?
     
  17. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Yeah, every once in a while the Recon question is basically "get off our case about this"--like the Rey one last season.
     
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  18. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I know, I know. We're not representative of the fanbase in general. But the Antilles question can be solved by reading the new Character Encylopedia or... you know, for free, the Databank. That's why I think Rebel Recon should answer questions that have no answer anywhere else.
     
  19. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    As for the Empire and a "third side" in the Clone War:
    I actually read that as evidence that Ezra hasn't put it all together quite yet, as a few in this thread have lamented.
     
  20. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Yet nobody bothered to tell him: "Er... Ezra, you know that the Empire actually is the direct and legal continuation of the Republic, right?" :p
     
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  21. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not gonna lie... this episode didn't really do it for me. The scale & scope of the last few episodes has been off. I get that each episode can/does lay seeds for the future, but after the season opener, the Y-wing episode, and the Wedge episode, things have slowed down a bit. I'm interested to see the Databank entries today, as I'm pretty sure Agamar is not the same as EU Agamar. :p

    The idea of Kalani serving the Rebellion one day... not sure how I feel about that. Good & bad, I suppose.

    --Adm. Nick
     
  22. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Well no, I think everyone knows that - I think the exact mechanism for how the war started and who the players were is still a mystery. From a certain point of view, Ezra is right...the people engineering the rise of the Empire deceived the Republic and the Separatists. Unfortunately, it's more complex than that.
     
  23. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Only if you already knew they were separate characters. Otherwise, why would you look?


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  24. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's... actually a fair point. Ah, well... They should have used the first name Raymus in the novel (you know which one I mean), that would have spared us the trouble.
     
  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    You need only accept the logic of that scenario.

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  26. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Does this still need spoiler tags?

    They DO mention, in this very episode, that the Republic became the Empire. In fact, it's the conclusion of the conversation between Ezra and Kalani that converts the droid to their side.

    I think Ezra's point was more how the loyal soldiers of the Republic, and the loyal soldiers of the Separatists, were both betrayed, when he was talking about who benefitted from / "won" the war. I agree it would have been clearer if Ezra said "the Emperor" instead of "the Empire," but I don't think even Kanan and Ezra know the full truth about Palpatine yet.