A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

It might also be a reference to the EU, where there were no Mandalorian Jedi in the thousands of years prior to this last great war. And, no, Jedi becoming Mandalorian don't count.

 

My favorite part of this episode was Chopper very clearly saying "I've got a bad feeling about this."

 

Dosn'tsound like he remained a Jedi for long. It's going to be interesting to find out more about Tar Vizsla but it does feel a bit fanboy to me.

 

Where do you get that from?

Anyway, this new character sounds awesome. I'd love a novel about him (and in fact, as an author, it's always been a dream of mine to write a SW book of course, and if I could choose this is probably the character I'd write about).

 

"This lightsaber was looted by my ancestors from your jedi temple during the fall of the old republic, since then many Jedi have died by it's blade"

Taking that quote at it's face value there seems to be nothing to indicate being owned by a mandalorion, in fact at the time it was probably just "another old republic lightsaber" but now that Filoni is in charge he saw the opportunity for a good ol retcon

 

It sounds too much like in-universe fan fiction so I doubt it's a retcon. Jedi and Sith fought for a long time and until proven otherwise I'll believe it was crafted by a Sith. It's a dark katana, of course a Sith made it.

The story wouldn't make them look that good if he said mandos pillaged the temple and stole whatever they found.

 

It says he went on to rule Mandalore, pretty sure Jedi don't rule plants.

 

It says that after he died, his clan liberated the darksaber from the Jedi Temple, where it was seemingly kept in a place of honor, and they ruled Mandalore.

 

Woops my bad.

 

Lame Jedi don't rule planets. Rad Jedi rule planets.

 

Marasiah Fel, K'kruhk, Roan Fel, Tenel Ka, the Jedi Chancellors of the Republic during the New Sith Wars, all say hi. They may be legends now but I'm sure it's happened in the new continuity too.

 

A Jedi who takes over rule of their own planet isn't a Jedi any longer; they frown on personal property of things as inconsequential as droids and starships, I highly doubt that the orthodox Order would allow any Jedi who took over a planet to remain a member for very long. Look what happened to Dooku. First thing he did after leaving the order was to take back his estate and family heritage on Serenno and become "Count Dooku".

 

I was waiting for someone to use a legends story to justify a disagreement in cannon.

 

Pretty sure Yoda wouldn't have been cool with what Marasiah and Roan were up to. Since they didn't follow like... anything Yoda taught. It's like calling the Power Rangers Samurai (which fans do...) because they have like, 2 things in common. One of them being polite to people you pass in the hall. (No wait the Fels don't even do that...)

 

The Fels aren't Jedi, they're Imperial Knights.


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There's a difference between Jedi, and PT Jedi. I'm sure they've changed through the years, and will keep changing.

As you quoted, I said I could see no reason why this couldn't happen in the new canon too.

True, but Yoda and Obi-wan also thought Vader was beyond redemption. And they do observe a lot of what Yoda taught, just not all. I'm not saying they're model Jedi, definitely not in the traditional sense, but they basically are a distinct branch of the Jedi, who obey their Emperor/Empress in the light side and redeem or end them if they fall to the dark.

They are Jedi, where the Jedi Council and the Senate are all one person. And I also mentioned how Jedi were the Supreme Chancellors of the Old Republic for hundreds of years during the New Sith Wars in legends, plus there's Tenel Ka and Allana.

 

The Imperial Knights aren't Jedi by definition. They're Imperial Knights. There are a number of common elements and beliefs, but they are two separate orders.

 

You don't need to be in the Jedi Order to be a Jedi.

 

If you say you or your order is separate from the Jedi, and the Jedi agree, it makes no sense to say "but actually they're still Jedi". You seem to be conflating "light-sider" with "Jedi".

 

I will say that I agree on the jedi of the new sith wars. Lord Hoth for example but even then they just had leadership rules and they seemed to be given them more out of necessity and be more of a title thing than anything else. Like they needed them to rule the local militias so they gave them a title and the best they had was stuff like Lord. They had no political power.

 

I really liked this episode because I'm a fan of locked-door siege / monster movies ala Alien or Green Room, and there was some decent quipping between the three characters, and the droid was effectively nasty. definitely seems like one of the smaller scale, cheaper efforts but it worked into the grand Thrawn scheme at the end nicely. I get the feeling Kallus is going to end up having to take on Thrawn one on one, hell maybe he'll end up being the canon version of Thrawns bodyguard to betrayed him / took him out.

 

If Kallus is going to fill the role of Rukh then he'll have to get on with it, because the Imperial spy plotline seems like it's going to come to head in 3 episodes.

 

Thats not the way I read it, the wook says they rule the plans/system their in, So they could defend against the sith. They even went as far to make their own grand Council outside of the jurisdiction of the Hige Council.

 

Wonder if Kallus still has that rock?





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