A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

That Kanan is terrible, but Ezra is good.

 

Series Finale of Rebels--

(after discovering General Draven and Cassian Andor had really killed Ezra's parents so they wouldn't divulge Rebel information under Imperial interrogation. The Ghost crew knew the whole time and never told Ezra):

Ezra ignites lightsaber

Sabine: Ezra, don't do this!

Ezra: My name isn't Ezra. Henceforth, my name is Snoke!

(kills rest of Ghost crew)

(rolls credits, audiences gasp in shock)

Note: No, this isn't a spoiler for anything, just something I thought up. It would be interesting if Rebels ended like this though.

 

Ezra's parents weren't capital R rebels, and Snoke probably isn't even a human.


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No offense, but that sounds like Fan Fiction 101.

 

Why bother responding just to say something like this?

 

Ironically, the dialogue isn't really original, but paraphrased from Magneto's speech in X-Men: Apocalypse.

And to be fair, a lot of people said Maul coming back with metal legs to get revenge on Kenobi was just bad fan fiction in Visionaries. Then the concept was canonized... Maul is now also canonically Talzin's son, even though they don't look to be the same species either.

I'm glad that Sabine acknowledged that she might not be the best person to rule Mandalore just because she had the Darksaber in the last episode. I'm still not seeing how the Darksaber became something symbolizing ownership of Death Watch to ownership of all Mandalore. Was this an idea already planned during TCW? Because Satine, Bo-Katan, etc never said anything about it. Neither did Dooku or Pre Vizsla...

Pre Vizsla even had to explain what the Darksaber was to Kenobi in TCW ("This lightsaber was taken by my ancestors etc"). For someone who spent a lot of time on Mandalore (how Kenobi met Satine), Kenobi probably should have at least heard of it...

 

Exactly. Actually that's the root of it for us the Snezra wishful thinkers. We want Snoke to have some meaning or at least an "a-ha!, it's HIM" moment.

The most likely scenario is that he is just Star Wars Mumm-Ra and that's kind of boring.

wait

Mumm-ra...Ez-ra

not likely

 

Remember a couple pages ago when everyone was upset that Sabine's mom wasn't Rook Kast? Even though all of the "foreshadowing" of it was pure conjecture and coincidence?

Yeah, I see the Snoke=Ezra thing going the exact same way.

 

Snoke being Mumm-Ra would be awesome if he literally is identical in the way he operates, right down to having the pyramid chant and getting magic evil roid rage. I'd forgive EVIII/IX a lot if that happened.

 

Ah, forgot about the chant + transformation. In that case, definitely yes.

Originally I was just thinking about evil guy stuck in a far-off planet just mulling over evil deeds

 

Because every life I can save from writing bad fan fiction is time well spent.

I realize he was just kicking around harmless ideas, but Snoke = Ezra is just as terrible as Jar Jar as a Sith Lord, and no one wants a repeat of that.

 

Why is Snoke = Ezra terrible?

I agree that it's rather unlikely, but I'd take it over Snoke being some ancient dark wizard pulled out of a hat to lead the First Order, or whathaveyou.

 

A fairly good EU example is the Sith Emperor--before the Old Republic came out, there was a lot of speculation on who the Sith Emperor actually was. When he ended up being some new super-powerful guy we conveniently never heard of before, well... I'm just not sure Emperor Vitiate ever ended up being very interesting to me, to be honest.

I really don't want this same anticlimactic "revelation" for Snoke.

I still think it would have been a good idea to make Lord Vitiate = Gav Daragon. There was any number of ways Gav could have survived that supernova.

Darth Krayt from Star Wars Legacy is probably a good example of how the revelation of an identity for the villain can be somewhat satisfying. I'd rather have Snoke go the Darth Krayt route than the Sith Emperor Vitiate route.

As for Ezra... I think a very good idea may be for him to just get married and live a normal life outside of the wider Jedi/Sith Rebels/Empire struggle. If he gets past his need for revenge against the Sith, maybe he finds his path doesn't lead back to the Jedi after all. This would actually be a good way of resolving his storyline. Not everyone who is Force sensitive necessarily needs to be a Jedi, and Rebels may point out that this path is ok. I had hoped this was the way Ahsoka's arc will be resolved in TCW, but then she came back as a Jedi in all but name in Rebels...

 

Because everything implied about Snoke is that he's some sort of longtime politician or other high ranked member of society running things at a leadership level. First in the NR, now for the First Order. Plucky street rat who becomes a master manipulator? There are going to have to be God-tier stories in place to make me buy that. So impossible? No. Stupid? Oh yes, terribly stupid.

It also smacks of clickbait style mass guessing and hoping something sticks. Oh! Mace Windu is Snoke! Ezra is Snoke! Dumbledore was Snoke until he was replaced by a clone of Snape! You see where I'm going with this?

Is it possible I'm wrong? Sure. It's also possible the Sun could emit a solar flare in the next eight minutes and kill all life on Earth. So there you go.

 

No hope orphans rising to the upper echelons of Imperial society over a period of three decades is way too far fetched, you're right.

 

Luke Skywalker was a farmboy at 19 and became Jedi Grandmaster in the EU (it seems new canon will just have to settle for sole Jedi for now).

Also, Ezra is only 17 and already commanding Rebel missions on Rebels. A political career, or a continuing military one, is certainly possible (and may even be his eventual future, maybe as a New Republic politican of some sort). By the time of TFA, if Ezra is still alive, he would be 53.

Also, the EU book Darth Plagueis literally had spoiled rich 17 year old street racer Sheev Palpatine turn into a master manipulator by age 50, and it could be argued that EU's Sheev Palpatine at age 17 was far more uncontrollable than 17 year old Ezra.

So I'm not seeing how Ezra becoming a master manipulator at 53 would be far-fetched in comparison to other Star Wars precedent...?

 

This is like the third thread I've read in two days with nothing but Snoke speculations clogging up the pages.

If you want to talk about Snoke theories, start a thread of your own and stop clogging up. Some of us don't like reading about them and I'm tired of it as well.

Move on to more interesting things please.

 

In all serious no, no it would not.

 

Serious question: what did Darth Krayt having a specific preexisting character as his origin actually bring to him? It's important to his backstory that he be generically a survivor of Order 66, but apart from getting to use the krayt dragon symbology a couple of times, I don't really think it made a big difference for him to be A'Sharad Hett instead of some guy we'd never heard of before.

 

Yes yes it would

 

Seriously! This is about Star Wars Rebels! Not Snoke, nor Krayt. Create a new thread and fill it with those theories.

Am I the only one curious about the upcoming

Spoiler

Obi-Wan vs. Maul fight and whether Luke might appear from afar and Ezra will see him and realise that he isn't key to defeating the Sith but Luke is and focuses instead on fighting the Empire?

 

Noash_Retrac -- People are entitled to engage with whatever piques their interest. That includes "omg Ezra=Snoke lol" no matter how bored you are of it, personally. He's a Force-strong REBELS character who has had a brush with the dark side. It's going to come up from time to time.

As you've just discovered, nothing was stopping you from getting the ball rolling on a conversation that actually interested you.

 

Oh his approach to his version of the Sith is very old Order Jedi, and his method in things in certainly very Hett.

 

Spoiler

I'm really curious about the outcome. Will it be:

a) The predictable and boring "Obi-wan kills Maul and there's that"
b) The business-savvy "They spar but sort out their differences/Maul escapes and continues to run around in the EU"
c) The improbable but spaghetti western-artsy Old wounds outcome

My vote is on b as well as my preference. Although I'm wary since I don't want any of them to ever come within 10 miles close to Luke.

Don't think speculation on a trailer warrants tags, but better safe than sorry.

 

Snoke is Ezra reincarnated, I bet! Ezracarnation!

The Reyincarnation vs. Ezracarnation final battle to the death wil be epic!