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A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JoinTheSchwarz , May 20, 2013.

  1. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Well, the Rebellion was not based at the planet and Thrawn really couldn't have ENDED the Rebellion, there. However, it was a victory which decimated the Rebel Alliance's standing military.
     
  2. Rennzwerg

    Rennzwerg Jedi Master star 2

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    Dear, oh dear. I just posted one innocent comment, no cynicism or anything, and we end up in an argument about my narrative? ;-)

    What about the two brave crewers who stayed with Sato? Great show of loyalty, and in fact Sato's and their sacrifice made the escape of their friends possible.

    Be that as it may, it was Thrawn attacking them in Zero Hour, not the Rebels going off on an assault (as implied in the mini trailer), which is what I was referring to. :)

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  3. tatooinesandworm

    tatooinesandworm Jedi Master star 3

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    Hey now, it was said in jest

    A binary statement that no Rebels leaders died, when the commander of Phoenix Squadron’s death was the reason the Rebels were able to escape just doesn’t compute.

    It seems like you are putting way more importance on the 6 mains surviving. Just because our window characters made it through the battle, doesn’t mean that the losses weren’t brutal. It was a pretty harsh drubbing of the Rebels.



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  4. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    And Kissek Doran!


    Oh...


    Missa ab iPhona mea est.
     
  5. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    I remember the new retcon that the Fetts (Jango and Boba) aren't Mandalorians in the new canon. The Fetts struck me as the practical sort. They'd change their armor in the face of the 'Duchess' superweapon rather than keep using it for silly cultural reasons. No wonder they left the Mandalorians...
     
  6. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My headcanon about Jango Fett is that he was once a Mandalorian who rejected his heritage after Concord Dawn was ravaged and his family was killed (likely he was a Protector like Fenn Rau) by Death Watch and the New Mandalorian government didn't do anything to stop it or deal with Death Watch (like Almec, they likely turned a blind eye to these things happening beyond the Mandalore system). He then became a bounty hunter and the Sundari government rejected calling Fett a Mandalorian afterwards. Notice how quick Almec was to respond with his denials that were pretty unbelievable to begin with.
     
  7. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Yeah, denying Jango was a Mandalorian was Blatant Lies from the beginning.
     
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  8. Vthuil

    Vthuil Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, I mean, the reason it remains such an issue is that while the viewer (and Obi-Wan) has no real reason to believe Almec, official statements keep rather senselessly supporting his claim.
     
  9. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Mind you, they're also denying the Death Watch exists too.

    But yes, I presume they'll eventually tie Fett back in.
     
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  10. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    In Legends, I think a point was made of Boba Fett's Mandalorian friends teasing him for using durasteel armour instead of beskar. So, The Duchess would never be a problem for him in the first place.
     
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  11. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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  12. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Regarding the Loth-wolf from Rebels trailers, and the ice wolf from The Last Jedi trailers:

    Rebels Loth-wolf
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    TLJ "ice wolf"
    [​IMG]

    do you think there will be some sort of connection?
     
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  13. ManWithoutAStar

    ManWithoutAStar Jedi Knight star 3

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    I dont think so.
    Crystal foxes are common native creatures of Crait imho, while the Loth-wolves are more rare and have some special connection to the Force.
     
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  14. Grievpalpy75

    Grievpalpy75 Jedi Knight star 2

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  15. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    True - on googling, it does appear that it's intended to be crystal rather than ice.
     
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  16. SyndicThrass

    SyndicThrass Jedi Grand Master star 4

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  17. Ancient Whills

    Ancient Whills Force Ghost star 6

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    New broadcast schedule.

    Star Wars‏@starwars
    NEW #StarWarsRebels episodes will premiere Mondays at 9pm ET/PT on @DisneyXD and 12:01am ET on DisneyNOW beginning 10/23!

    Per Lucasfilm, the viewing schedule for the apps, video-on-demand, iTunes, etc remains unchanged.
     
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  18. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    My head canon is that the Fetts are part of a non-clan affiliated subculture of Mandalorians on Concord Dawn; not second class citizens, but a culturally distinct people group politically under Mandalore's protection and with some parts of Mandalorian culture bleeding over into it. Jango is, as far as I know, still canonically from Concord Dawn itself, and we've seen at least one Concord Dawn native in Rako Hardeen who lacks any immediately identifiable Mandalorian characteristics aside from some martial skill, his own armor that sort of resembles some elements of Mandalorian Armor, and Obi-Wan choosing even more faux-Mandalorian gear when undercover as him.

    So, I figure that Concord Dawn's natives have, at times, been absorbed into Mandalorian clans as members (which is an easy idea to get behind) but have also been treated as a junior partner in some conflicts, possibly even being levied as non-Mando auxiliary forces with similar armor (Obi-Wan, hailing experience with Mandalorian culture from his youth, would know this and choose such armor to maintain the cover.) When the Great Clan War erupted (combined with the old Legends Mandalorian Civil War here), Jango Fett: Open Seasons played out, with Concord Dawn being a strategically important base and agricultural planet between the original Death Watch and a splinter Protector organization, the True Mandalorians. Jango was adopted by Mereel, recieved a Mandalorian education, but refused to acknowledge Duchess Satine and the rest after he was done, and remained culturally Concord Dawnian.
     
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  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    At the moment, the newcanon only confirms that Jango claims to be from Concord Dawn. Still, I like the idea of not invalidating his claims. Maybe Fenn Rau will even get confirmed as knowing Jango, in the future?
     
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  20. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    To be a Mandalorian was to be a New Mandalorian. They defined what was a Mandalorian. So, yes, Fett was not a Mandalorian to Almec. But neither was Vizsla or Montross or Skirata or Shysa or etc etc.


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  21. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    I view Jango and Boba Fett as Mandalorians because the Mandalorians are literally the people created from them.

    It's like suddenly saying Greedo isn't a Rodian.

    Or Ventress isn't a Rattaka...oh wait.
     
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  22. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    That coward deserved exactly what he got. Deserting in the middle of combat like that. What an utter disgrace. I'll bet his wife changed their family's name out of shame or something.
     
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  23. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Great point about Ventress.

    I can see why they might not want the Fetts to be Mandos; they've developed the Mandalorians along somewhat different and less "scum and villainy" lines than what the Fetts are in the movies, and they wouldn't be the first to think that the idea of Boba or Jango scavenging or stealing the armor is a cool idea. As long as the story for their acquisition is good, it kind of plays nicely: Jango/Boba may be a simple hired gun, but he's sneaky enough and deadly enough to slay an armored warrior and use that trophy as his personal gear.

    The downside to that idea is the Mandalorians being created pretty much off of the Fetts, as you said, and that for old Legends fans, a Fett who hasn't earned his armor resembles Jodo Kast more than anything, and Twin Engines of Destruction highlighted how that's not a flattering comparison.
     
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  24. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The weirdest part of the whole Rattataki/Dathomirian business is that the canon Rattataki are now the Siniteen.
     
  25. Revanfan1

    Revanfan1 Force Ghost star 6

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    Yeah, I'll give you that. Most of TCW's retcons didn't bother me, but that one was...uh, odd.