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A/V STAR WARS REBELS (show's over, spoilers allowed)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JoinTheSchwarz , May 20, 2013.

  1. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Maybe the captured Neimoidan leaders told them? They know Maul's name at least.
     
  2. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    That's a good explanation, I'll accept that. The rest about him being chopped in half still stands though.
     
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  3. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Mentioning Sidious would have been suicide for them, but Maul was another thing.


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  4. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    In the context of an EU that had a Sith lord survive as a living head after being beheaded (Simus) Maul's survival doesn't seem so bad.

    The comic The Sith Hunters covered what happened to Maul after he fell into that pit.
     
  5. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    Lol living heads. I'm glad iv not seen that, it's straight out of Futurama

     
  6. Iron_lord

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  7. LelalMekha

    LelalMekha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    And the brains-in-jars B'omarr Monks are still canon too.
     
  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Just mostly ;). Mia simply articulated the specifics I was referring to far better than I did. :)
     
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  9. CooperTFN

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    The Jedi found Maul's ship and his name was written on all his underwear.
     
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  10. tatooinesandworm

    tatooinesandworm Jedi Master star 3

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    Darth Sion was literally falling apart and he held his body together using the Dark side of the force. I took it that it was that same element of the Dark Side that Maul tapped into to keep his squishy parts from atrophying (sp?) and drying up from the inside out...


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  11. Taalcon

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    Son of Dathomir makes clear that some 'essence of Talzin' had been dwelling in Maul, almost Horcrux-like. Her power sustained him, and then later, his self served as a means to sustain her. Weird parasitic/symbiotic relationship using a Dathomirian approach to the Dark Side of the Force to tap into powers some would consider to be... unnatural.
     
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  12. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    That reminds me, I need to pick up some Essence of Talzin for my spice rack.
     
  13. Taalcon

    Taalcon Chosen One star 4

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    I don't like it. It's been known to make my ground beef get up and go on a rampage of revenge.
     
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  14. BobaMatt

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    I thought the Jedi, canonically, had learned all about the Sith in the wake of the Naboo crisis from the TF.
     
  15. Tzizvvt78

    Tzizvvt78 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's an empty caveat given what we see in actually labeled science fiction that George "borrowed" from (Dune, Lensman etc.). Star Wars is as "grounded" as those works.
     
  16. Taalcon

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    Makes sense they'd feel free to namedrop Maul, because, well, as far as they knew, he was dead. And it could plausible be all they knew. Namedropping Sidious would be a bad, bad move - one that is dropped on Obi-Wan by Dooku for seemingly the first time a decade later.
     
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  17. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    The science and technology are there as window-dressing though -- instead of swords we have beams of light, etc. what's important is internal consistency.

    Suppose we don't know the exact mechanism of the magic stick. Is it out of keeping with technology and/or the Force as we know it in Star Wars? I don't think so.

    The EU had it so that Yoda messed with Luke's instruments on the way to Dagobah. I see this as a similar thing, but through some stick ritual instead.

    Alternatively there's a technical explanation --- the magic stick is a beacon of some sort instead of a Force thing. That'd fit with my discussion with Mia yesterday.

    The question isn't "how exactly does it work" -- I can watch SW without wondering how the hell a beam of light deflects another beam of light -- but does it work narratively. And I think it works as well as any other. SW is space opera and fantasy, not sci fi.


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  18. BobaMatt

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    I guess, for me, it would have seemed to make more sense if the staff put Zeb into a trance and Zeb, in his trance, safely piloted the ship than that electricity took over the ship's systems.

    Unless, of course, "as the ancients used it" meant that the staff doubles as a navcomputer, which for all I know is possible.
    Absolutely - the Jedi, of course, always figured there was one more out there, though.
     
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  19. Sinrebirth

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    Save for when Dooku interrogates Gunray to find Sidious' identity, which I am unsure as to whether it happened before or after he joined the Sith.


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  20. fett 4

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    Zebs into Trance is he, I can buy that too
    Maybe this is the new planet that wasn't shown too ;)




    CooperTFN that maybe but that's still tame compared to Lando who actually went all the way and wore Han's clothes and probably more besides
     
  21. CooperTFN

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    I think it feels more counterintuitive than it has to because we're used to seeing the bo-rifle as just a weapon, whereas if Zeb had been carrying a little flash drive around his neck and plugged it into the Ghost we would happily assume it had software on it that overrode the Ghost's navicomputer, shields, etc. Which IMO is more or less what happens, just in a more abstractly technological way than, say, Artoo plugging into a data port in the films. And Zeb may well have known it could function in that way without realizing it had any relationship to Lirasan.

    Nah, Lando goes commando.
     
  22. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    If it was just the nav computer aspect I'd probably question it less since we saw its map related use during the ritual- but it put out enough energy to make the ship near-invincible to turbolasers and gravity to a degree that a larger ship with a higher energy output could not match. In a handheld staff.

    If Kallus isn't trying to trick out his next command ship with his own staff next time, well, there's a few Imperial engineers working on a legacy project that would be very interested in such things...
     
  23. CooperTFN

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    I don't think it did anything to the turbolasers directly; that was the effect of the black holes. How it made the ship immune to them is a bigger question, but in a universe with ubiquitous antigravity I have no problems believing it's at least possible--if unusual.
     
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  24. Ulicus

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    Tell me another story of the Shepard.
     
  25. BobaMatt

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