Discussion in 'Games' started by slimybug, Aug 25, 2001.
Don't underestimate the power of Treknobabble, .
Actually SW tech is far superior to ST tech.
The Empire discovers TMW and trys to take over, TF and the borg join forces against them. The borg kill a rebel and the rebels get pod. They join the Empire for a while Then come the Yuuzon Vong(I no this takes place in 2 differnt time periods.)
They think that TFand the borg ar trying to take over the Star Wars Galaxy. They ar too they join the sw force just to get rid of the st fres, The YV and the borg kill eachother, And just when the Empire/RA is about to kill the sse, the rebels learn of the missunderstanding and join the federation crushin the empire.
Trek has access to Biological weapons, transporters, time machines/formulas for time travel, Super beings left, right and center, actual telepaths and tons of people with Extra sensory Perception who don't have to rely on some energy field to use their powers, geneticly enginered people with reflexes to rival Jedi and intelligences to surpase the brightest of SW people. Didn't that Wesley Crusher punk end up becoming some super being capable of folding space or something like that?
SW well Luke can fly an X-Wing .... and they have technology that never progresses.
star wars would win, end of story!
Jacked up is right the borg would defeat the empire. the dominion would crush it. The maquis are very similar to ther rebels, The federation has better tech as well, species 8472 would purge the galaxy of life most likely. He's right star wars would lose to star trek.
star trek has tech brought back to the federation from voyager has temporal-phase torpedoes, they go right through shields, and cause massive explosive damage, and can take a ship the size of Star Destroyer in one or 2 hits. They also have the info to create a transwarp drives, and install them on new ships. Transwarp is comparable to hyperspace in speed, They also have the info on the Caretaker's device which if harnassed would give them the ability to cross the known galaxy in single quick bound. Plus a new shield system that that covers a ship, in a physical/energy shield armor that acts like a shief, and is impenatrible.
Not to mention other countless tech from the Delta quad, that would serve to make the federation powerful.
"Jeedai poopy Jeedai!" Jabba the hutt
Im saying in star wars theres jedi.
Knowing the science of Star Trek they would probably be able to analyse the energy field of the force and inject themselves with metichlorians!
Or they would just find a way to activate the energy field and powers, that Mitochondria are supposed to contain(according to some pseudoscientists).
Of course that was done on one or 2 episodes of star trek: TOS, I think, and each time the persons, got kind of egotistical, and considered themselves better than human.
As for jedi, they are only good if they get aboard a ship(in a fighter, or ship, they are sitting ducks). In both fighter, or ship, they would have to contend with federation ships that can target small objects rather easily, and fire exactly.
as well, jedi would ally with the federation. Both hold very equal ideals. Federation are not expansionistic, they allow people to join the federation, and don't push it and leave respectfully if the people refuse to do it. Jedi and NR, would respect people like that. Jedi, NR, and federation would show mutual respect, peace, and cooperation to each other.
Now, sith or darkjedi on the other hand would be expansionistic, but as I showed above there only good if they can get aboard a ship, to do damage. Yet even then they would probable be defeated. People in star trek, have defeated, gods, devils, superhumans, energy creatures, aliens with the ability to turn humans into other creatures(many of above, having the ability to think things out of existence), and other such things that were 20x more powerful than jedi have exibited. So darkjedi would be just like a new enemy, yet another one they can use treknobabble to defeat, . As well, they would have above allied jedi, to help them defend from a sith infiltration.
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spock and kirk are dead. They dont stand a chance, and im not a really big trekkie, so i dont know what the federation is.
"st2twok and stg spoilers
spock and kirk are dead. They dont stand a chance, and im not a really big trekkie, so i dont know what the federation is."
yes kirk is dead, so what?
but, Spock is still alive, in Nextgen, and get's mentioned in voyager, during one of the communications with the federation space. Scotty is still alive, and could be an excellent commander if called in for duty.
Federation is a group of planets that ally with each other in a democracy type way(Much like the New Republic).
As for other captains that federation has:
They still have picard, while more serious than kirk, is one highly capable captain, who has won as many battles as kirk, and gotten the enterprise out of scrapes. His First Mate, Jonathan Riker, is just like kirk in many respects, and also gotten the enterprise out of many scrapes. Not to mention his crew, hold there own as being the next generation of enterprise crew, and quite good at winning against all odds.
They still have Captain sisko, in a way, he became a GOD, in some wormhole, and can influence destiny, and outcome of any war. His crew still exists, and also are some of the best the Federation has to offer, winning pretty much every battle they ever fought.
They still have Captain Janeway, who also has won practically every battle she has ever fought, against enemies that are far more insidious and dangerous than the empire ever was(Borg to name one.). Her crew is just as capable and excellent as kirk's crew was, and they too have had many scrapes, and discovered weapons that outclass what ever the empire has use against the federation.
As well, the enterprise NC-1701 a kirks ship, was quite powerful, in one episode scotty talked about how it could slag a whole planet, turning the Planet into magma, within a few minutes to hours depending on what setting it was on, and hinted that it could destroy the planet, and he hinted at the level of energy output of the ships weapon. which compared to that of the death stars output levels, was something like 5x as great when set to full power. So there phaser weapons are quite powerful.
now if the enterprise Nc-1701, was that powerful, then what do you think the later upgraded ships, and ships with new technology have? More than enough energy, to cause massive damage. Shields in the star trek are also ten times more powerful, to withstand that kind of energy.
As for the term trekkie that refers to people who collect novels, action figurs, and other merchandise as well as dress up as characters from the show, and act like they are from the star trek universe.
Not very many people here that do that I think. I'm just a casual fan, I love star wars a whole lot better, but I also enjoy trek. But I've seen enough trek to know it's tech is on larger scale, and more powerful, in many ways. while it did have a few weakenesses(Ie. speed difference), but that has changed since the series of voyager, and the tech that Janeway discovered, they now have the equivalent to hyperspace.
So the plot for star trek goes:
A group of scientists on Earth, invent an invention called warp drive wich allows them to travel the galaxy alot faster. because of this invention, They send a Warp capable starship called enterprise into space with a bunch of scientist dudes, to study life on other planets. They find other life on this mission and form a democrocy of some planets called the federation. The group of scientists now travel with other life forms from the federation, and continue their mission exploring the galaxy, facing many adventures on the way.
Im most likeley wrong.
well, yes that about sums up the backhistory for the first star trek show, "the original series", except for one thing, that it was the vulcans that discovered earth first warp drive test, and made a friends with the scientist Zephram Cochrane, and helped them to get out further. see star trek: first contact, and the upcoming "Enterprise" tv series.
So A spaceship lands on earth and the aliens come out and tell them they are vulcans, They are able to travel the galaxy because of an invention called warp drive. They come in peace i guess hahahahah. So the vulcans give the humans the warp drive, and the humans make the starship enterprise and send a bunch of scientists along with a vulcan guide named spock to explore life on other planets, as they find new life they put them in their growing planetary democracy called the Federation
is that right? and if so is their a senate and president of the federation?
This topic always makes me laugh my ass off. Especially when people get really passionate and personal about it.
Who would would? Whoever you want to win.
A single TIE fighter or X-Wing would wipe out the entire Star Trek Federation. Their pathetic phasers and torpedoes would fizzle against the advanced hull technology of a Star Wars ship. A single laser would rip through the Enterprise like a knife through butter. And the Borg wouldn't know how to assimilate squat.
No, the humans invent A warpdrive, other aliens are already warp capable. the warp drives energy signature from it's first test, attracts the vulcans, who decide to befriend humans and make sure they are ready for explorations by monitoring them, and making sure the humans are mature enough to handle the technology that humans invented.
Yes, there is a president and a senate, but unlike star wars more Roman Senate style, the federation is more like US senate, and United nations senate style.
"This topic always makes me laugh my ass off. Especially when people get really passionate and personal about it.
Who would would? Whoever you want to win.
A single TIE fighter or X-Wing would wipe out the entire Star Trek Federation. Their pathetic phasers and torpedoes would fizzle against the advanced hull technology of a Star Wars ship. A single laser would rip through the Enterprise like a knife through butter. And the Borg wouldn't know how to assimilate squat."
Riley man, if your going to discuss the technology and which is better, you have to at least understand the principles behind each universes technology, and how they work.
There are fundamental laws that can't be broken in science, and which ever has the greater energy source between 2 styles of weapons has the greater of advantage. So far comparing both the star wars universes tech manuals, with star treks tech manuals, and what can be seen in star wars movies, and books, and star trek's TV series. Star trek is closer to following scientific principles, and has shown energy factors far excelling that of star wars. But people tend to forget, that the federation is peaceful government that only fights to defend themselves, and the NR is useally quite similer. They would not be attacking each other, and would respect each other's rights, and would be quite diplomatic about it, and fight against the common enemy of the empire.
so whats the deal with klingons and borgs, as far as people tell me, the klingons are all evil exept warf.
well, klingons aren't really evil, some are just greedy. But many show great honor, and valor,and are honest allies to the federation.
Blasters are powerful lasers, and phasers are distentagration rays, Boba Fett has a distentagration ray hmmmmmm......
There are different levels of Disrupter, and disentegration type weapons yes. As for how much boba fett, and how it would compare in power output, and to the shields that can regenerate quickly, and take many hits, is unknown.
Also fett's guns would definatly not be to the level, that Scotty discussed enterprises phasers could do to a planet. Especially looking at the fact of what han said about it taking More than 1000 ships with more power than he has, to destroy a planet. Death star being special circumstance. Now if all federation ships of enterprise's class or better can do the same thing, if they had too, then nothing fett has reaches that level of power.
The Empire's boffins would probably invent some lovely toy to screw up the entire teleportation thing, like trapping the tiny bits of whatever is being transported in limbo or something.
As for the Borg...well, the YV would kick their mechanical butts. Dovin basals, ooglith masquers, villips...
With the Borg, are they mainly assimilated, or are they a huge race with a couple (meaning like several hundred, not two) of asssimilated creatured?