ST Starkiller Base Discussion Thread

The SKB is about to destroy the Resistance Base at the end of TFA....

 

Yep. And wiping out Hosnian Prime was a bigger deal than wiping out Alderaan.

 

I think it's pretty fair to say that neither A New Hope nor The Force Awakens did a very good job of getting the audience to care that a planet had been destroyed. I really have no reason to care about Hosnian Prime or Alderaan... heck even Princess Leia seems to shake it off pretty quickly in ANH. I like TFA, but I always go back to thinking the movie needed another 15-20 minutes... to do things like getting me to at least kind of care about Hosnian Prime being destroyed.

IMO, even the Jedha destruction in Rogue One was far more emotionally impactful than either Alderann or Hosnian

 

Alderaan gets several beauty shots, which unmistakably show how earth-like it is, ergo, how close to a human ideal it is. It also gets a logical and ethical appeal that it does not meet any criteria to be targeted under any conventional agreements on warfare. It also gets a musical representation of freedom precariously on a wing and in the balance. Additional tension is wrought from courtly sparring and competing strategies of deception. Upon hearing its fate in purpose, Carrie Fisher evinces. Call it denial. Upon seeing its fate in action, Carrie Fisher braces herself, showing a toughness, showing a lack of incomprehension, tantamount to a long game acceptance. (15 frames). Don't watch SW77 and you'll miss it. An analogous reaction shot occurs when Luke sees the charred corpses of Owen and Beru.

 

In the text? Still, it isn't incorporated into the plot until after Yoda's death. It doesn't really increase the stakes from the closing of TESB. Han has been captured and the Empire rules the galaxy and Luke is it's last hope.

 

It is in the OPENING SHOT of Jedi.

 

lol yeah I forgot. But still, that doesn't increase the tension that TESB left with. Instead of the solid tension that was built with the plot it's a throw in "oh no the maniacal bad guys are going to destroy the galaxy."

 

Personally i don't get why they had to do another deathstar, it feels unoriginal at this point to do the same thing again.

 

Yeah - especially because that makes it the FOURTH Star Wars movie where one of the main macguffins was to blow up a spherical space craft. ANH, ROTJ, TPM, TFA..

 

The one thing I appreciate is that they included a reference to it in R1, as if the Empire had a whole series of superweapon designs lined up, and the First Order decided to go ahead with "Stellar Sphere" as the next logical step.

 

I don't remember the reference in R1. What was it?

 

IIRC, it was one of the file names in the data banks on Scarif.

 

IU I think it was a great idea. It basically destroyed the Republic government

 

It would make much more sense if they reveal that the Geonosians were involved in building a series of Death Stars.

Maybe after the first 2, they were open to new orders from radical groups such as Snoke.


"Some of the earliest plans for a mobile, planet-destroying superweapon dated back millennia to the ancient Sith. Thousands of years later, before the outbreak of the Clone Wars, the Geonosians, aligned with Count Dooku and the Confederacy of Independent Systems, designed the Ultimate Weapon in secret. After the fall of the Confederacy, construction of the Death Star was appropriated by the nascent Empire. It was built in orbit of Geonosis and supported by a complex logistical network of bases."

 

Honestly, I just find the idea of Starkiller Base idiotic in concept alone. After all, how the hell can a superlaser shot from the Unknown Regions of the galaxy travel all the way to the Core Worlds without hitting a star, a planet's moon, or some kind of starship along the way. Not to mention how long it would take for the laser to reach the Hosnian Prime system (which is basically Coruscant 2.0) which I say should logically be at the very least in the span of 3-6 days.

What they should have done is this; Instead of centering the First Order's battle strategy on destroying the New Republic Senate, they should have instead focused on setting up double agents on New Republic strongholds in the Outer Rim, and when the time comes, the agents would then disable each planet's shields, communications array, etc. Thus, allowing the First Order to send a small battle fleet to each planet and conquer each planet. Then they would set their sights on invading the strongholds in the Mid Rim, and would be stopped by the heroes at the end when they tried to invade their stronghold.

It's not much, but I thought it would be more logical instead of another superweapon.

 

That is the awesomest reason for another rewatch of RO that I could ever have hoped for!!

 

Has it been confirmed that "Stellar Sphere" is SKB?

 

http://www.slashfilm.com/rogue-one-easter-eggs/2/

The prequel novel Catalyst implies that a few of them are actually subcomponents of the Death Star itself:

The Imperial Energy Division was new, but it, too, operated under the umbrella of Project Celestial Power. In fact, each separate department of the battle station project had its own cover name and cover agency, and Galen wasn’t alone in working for a counterfeit division and having his research put to alternative uses. Scattered across the galaxy were teams of scientists working on conventional weaponry, tractor beam and hyperdrive technology, even hull cladding systems. Each project was concealed behind names like Stellar Sphere, Mark Omega, and Pax Aurora. But all those paled in comparison with research on the superlaser.​

 

What I don't get is why didn't they just call it "The Starkiller". Why call it "Starkiller Base"?

 

Because it's a base?

 

Ah. So Stellar Sphere is NOT SKB. Oh well. Fun while it lasted!

 

Next up: The Star Destroyer!

Oh, wait...

 

Please, the Star Destroyer's got nothing on the Super Star Destroyer...

...wait a second.

 

I liked the idea of The Star Killer base , but it shouldn’t have been destroyed, It should have been disabled and present throughout the remaining films although being re-built but out of commission.

This could have been achieved when Han was fatally wounded by Kylo. As he was falling to his death he could have set off a thermal detonator that with a bit of luck! (no such thing as luck) destroyed a key component that will take years to fix and knocked out the main weapon.
Also it would have been a good end to Han.