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Rebels Starkiller in Rebels

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by InterestingLurker, May 31, 2013.

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Do you want Starkiller to appear in Star Wars: Rebels?

  1. Yes

    69 vote(s)
    37.7%
  2. No

    114 vote(s)
    62.3%
  1. VanishingReality

    VanishingReality Jedi Knight star 3

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    Apr 21, 2013
    I think it's seriously overdramatic to say force unleashed (a story about a character mentioned NO WHERE outside force unleashed) is the same as reconning Vader as Luke's father or anything in ESB which affects ALL six films. And I highly doubt that Garm, Mon Mothma and Bail will not be involved as leaders in the Rebellion, their story may not mirror TFU perfectly or have Sith involvement, but that element will be the same. It's rediculous to even think it's a recon free for all with the movies material in danger since they aren't using Force Unleashed.
     
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  2. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Uh, you did read the excerpt I posted earlier?
     
  3. Darth Valkyrus

    Darth Valkyrus Jedi Master star 4

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    It might be a nice idea if we had one thread for debates about canon. Right now there are about four or five paralell arguments about canon ongoing in four or five different threads in SWTV.
     
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  4. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    SCREW DISNEY. And what season 5 Clone Wars stuff? There wasn't anything about the Alliance.
     
  5. darkchrono

    darkchrono Jedi Master star 4

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    Yes there was. Watch the Onderon arc,
     
  6. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    Mar 26, 2013
    I did. There were some references but it was a blatant origin story. Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, etc were not involved at all.
     
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  7. DarthJenari

    DarthJenari Jedi Master star 4

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    You know i'm not generally a fan of retcons, but:

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jan 11, 2003
    Disney doesn't have anything to do with that. LFL wasn't owned by Disney when season 5 was penned with direct input by GL (and I'm not a fan of the TFU storyline anyway).
     
  9. BobaFan101

    BobaFan101 Jedi Padawan

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    Dec 3, 2013
    Mind if I steal that ;) ?
     
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  10. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    Lol I meant to say it was not a blatant origin story.
     
  11. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Disney can do whatever they want, because I no longer care about the force unleashed...

    its obvious to me that Lucas liked that story about as much as he adores the Holiday Special.
     
  12. TaradosGon

    TaradosGon Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Feb 28, 2003
    Lucas didn't seem to care about anything that he didn't create. Or maybe he "liked it" but it wasn't "his vision" and so rather than seeing the EU as a resource to fill in blanks, he seemed like he felt the need to do something completely different that represented "his vision."

    Lucas wants a Jedi killer named Grievous. The microseries does just that, so instead of being consistent, Lucas has to do something different and so goes the exact opposite route of making a coward.

    The EU goes the route of making Mandalorians a warrior culture. Lucas goes the route of making them a bunch of ex-warriors turned pacifists, etc.
     
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  13. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    There were two choices Lucas had in that case (and I believe you):

    --Don't let anyone else create in his universe
    --If he's going to let other people do it, make sure that it's consistent with "his vision"

    Of course the second option would involve him having a consistent vision.
     
  14. CommanderDrenn

    CommanderDrenn Jedi Knight star 4

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    Oct 19, 2013
    Well, I'm an EU fan, and what I think is canon is all that matters to me. Of course, I'll have a fit if the ST messes up post RotJ EU.
     
  15. BobaFan101

    BobaFan101 Jedi Padawan

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    Dec 3, 2013
    I didn't mind TFU but that fact that Vader and the Palpatine basically created the Rebels in order for him to kill them all in the same place at once, only for them to turn around and cause his downfall to be a 'slap in the face'
     
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  16. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    While I do expect to see Vader's apprentice in Rebels... I'm guessing that there are more than a few fans out there who are happier, now that "Rhett didn't start the Rebellion." I'm only bummed that I didn't get to finish the series the same way it started. As Vader.
     
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  17. darkchrono

    darkchrono Jedi Master star 4

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    99% sure you are going to have a fit.
     
  18. Manny Bothans

    Manny Bothans Jedi Knight star 1

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    Does Chewie being alive, Luke having always been single and childless, and Han and Leia having completely different children count as "messing up?"
     
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  19. kubricklynch

    kubricklynch Jedi Knight star 3

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    Dec 10, 2012

    I'm sure some people would come up with a mass of convoluted retcons to make it all work.
     
  20. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oct 23, 2003
    No. That's called WINNING.


    From a sale's point of view.
    ;)
     
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  21. SithLord_1270

    SithLord_1270 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Nov 5, 2008
    Leave him out.....PLEASE!
     
  22. SithLord_1270

    SithLord_1270 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Nov 5, 2008
    Leave him out.....PLEASE!
     
  23. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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    Mar 26, 2013
    I don't see why people dislike Starkiller starting the Rebellion so much. The pieces were there, he just brought them together. I thought it was a great way of showing that the people Sidious and Vader hurt with their schemes will eventually rise up and cause their destruction.
     
  24. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    May 21, 2008
    Making your Gary Stu the center of the most important events is just not cool, man.
     
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  25. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Sep 2, 2012
    Should be the common people rising up to overthrow the Empire. I mean I love the Jedi as much as the next person but the common people should be the ones to rise up to overthrow the Emperor and the Empire.
     
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