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Starlight: An Amidala/Anakin Story

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction Stories--Classic JC Board (Reply-Only)' started by Marie D Padawannabe, Feb 15, 2000.

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  1. Alderaan21

    Alderaan21 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Whoa, ease up JG! That's what I've been saying! I don't agree with the reasoning either, though there does seem to be a consensus among some people that if Ami had married Obi instead of Ani, she wouldn't have wound up with a broken heart. Well, she does marry Anakin, so I'd just as soon have her love him, and believe she truly will. (Being forced to marry him-- of all the infernal B.S....) Also, for the triangle there is the Ewan factor-- which so far I seem immune to; to some people it's only logical that Ami would want to hook up w/him instead of a guy five years her junior. As if that's really what love is based on. I like Ewan's character and all, I just like Anakin better and I don't think Obi is the hottest guy on the planet. (Actually kinda ugly, if you ask me. ) The tragic romance factor I agree w/as well. What better way to make Anakin's fall more tragic, to establish that he was human, than by sharing a mutual true love with someone? If they don't love each other then it cheapens a good deal of what's trying to be established in the preqs. Anyway, considering Ami marries Ani it would be kind of hard to have a true romance w/anyone else. I want to see a true, deep romance, dammit, and I know sure as I breathe that that isn't going to come from Obi's department.

    To state it plainly: Triangles bite the big one. I hated it in King Arthur, I'll REALLY hate it here. It's just plain unnecessary, even something plain like an Othello-esque tri or Obi having hidden feelings for Ami.

    Pardon moi while I proceed with massive upchucking.

    Oh yeah-- I'm glad to see you've added your poem to the site, it's definitely a stunning piece of work.

    [This message has been edited by Alderaan21 (edited 02-28-2000).]
     
  2. Marie D Padawannabe

    Marie D Padawannabe Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Hey all....

    Sorry that I haven't been around to respond,
    I was away in Chicago and without a computer
    (gasp!)!

    I am planning on writing more in this
    universe, soon as I have a chance. I want
    to thank everyone who responded..it really
    means a lot to me.

    One more thing...what does it mean when
    someone puts "up" as their post? I'm kinda
    new here (uh...lost is the word) and
    I would like to know...

    Thanks!
    Marie
     
  3. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Sorry, I know you agree with me. I'm just tearing my hair out at the other side. The eyes are bugging out... slipped by not making it clear!

    Ami-padme makes a good point about the fact that Amidala certainly doesn't end up with Obi-Wan, which she could have (supporters of the triangle with Bail will now rejoice, I'm sure rolleyes.gif ).

    And thank you for mentioning Arthur! That little romance was tossed in during the middle ages (or maybe the Renaissance; I don't remember my Arthuriana all that well) to amuse the French court; the English immediately, of course, adopted it to show the pernicious French influence. But the story was just fine without smearing poor Guinevere's name through the mud. Mordred was quite enough of a villain -- and his mother enough of a vilainess -- to explain everything, and make for quite the tragic fall, just by virtue of being Arthur's son. There wasn't a need for it there, and there was more material and time to work with, and more permutations of the story to make up for it, than there is in SW.

    Of course, they keep bringing up Helen of Troy...

    Good heavens, is Amidala now going to be the prize in some contest of the gods?

    Maybe it helps that I just don't think Ewan is that grand-looking -- cute, sure, but not grand -- and I never had any interest in the character. Or maybe it's just 'cause I fell madly in love with pasty-faced old Anakin the second the mask came off, when I was thirteen... (Hey, at least you can't accuse me of being obsessed with cosmetic concerns. )

    Thanks for the nice words on the poem.

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  4. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Marie,

    I'm sure you've noticed that posts move up as people add to them, and the ones that haven't been added to move down accordingly. When someone doesn't want a thread to disappear, but doesn't particularly have anything to say, s/he will bring the thread back to the top of the list by merely posting "up" (or A21's version, "Rise my friend").
     
  5. Marie D Padawannabe

    Marie D Padawannabe Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Originally posted by JediGaladriel:
    Marie,

    I'm sure you've noticed that posts move up as people add to them, and the ones that haven't been added to move down accordingly. When someone doesn't want a thread to disappear, but doesn't particularly have anything to say, s/he will bring the thread back to the top of the list by merely posting "up" (or A21's version, "Rise my friend").

    Gotcha....I figured something like that,
    but I wasn't too sure. Thanks!

    Marie

     
  6. Alderaan21

    Alderaan21 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Glad to see you're still with us, Marie-- and glad you got this story up on FF.N, so more ppl can enjoy it.

    Yes, that is indeed a good point she brought up, about them ending up together (which they thankfully don't, WOOHOO!)-- maybe I should just sit back and watch you two gracefully deflect the arguments. Much as I like to think I am I'm not always eloquent with my words.

    ----------------
    In this corner, we have the Pro-Triangle-ists! *muffled cheering*

    And in this corner, for the Anti-Triangle-ists, we have JediGaladriel and ami-padme! *wild cheering ensues* Begin first round!

    *Pro-triangle-ists sneak in blows from every possible angle, but the blows are nearly always deflected with grace and precision, until the pro-triangle lies in a heap in the floor of the ring from exhaustion*

    And once again, the round goes to A-P and JG!

    lol, that was sooo lame...
    ----------------------

    Yeah, when I was studying Arthurian legend my freshman year and researching Guinevere, I noticed that the triangle hadn't been there from the beginning-- that a French poet had incorporated it somewhere down the line into one of his 'epics'. If the triangle wasn't there from the beginning and Camelot had fallen before then, the triangle certainly wasn't necessary later on. And from what I gathered of it, Mordred was indeed the central cause of the fall of Camelot/Arthur-- the triangle was just a catalyst; Arthur doomed himself and Camelot the moment he went to bed with his sister. (Heh, it gets the twisted side of my brain wondering about what might have happened with Luke and Leia...) Many ppl will disagree, saying the Lance/Gwen/Arthur tri is one of the most important parts of the legend-- it is to an extent, just one I don't agree with.

    Hmm, all these times ppl are drawing connections between Arthur/SW-- to me Arthur almost, in a lot of ways, seems the inverse: for example in Arthur, the son was the one who brought his father down; in SW, it's the opposite. Which would hopefully mean the same will apply for the triangle!

    Ah, I see, your heart already belonged to someone else. Heh, if we stuck you (or me, for that matter, lol) into the SW prequel universe (as someone besides Ami), I would wonder if we wouldn't have a love triangle of another sort on our hands. I do remember you saying at one point that you'd hoped to be cast as Anakin's wife... If I'd been trying out for the prequels, that's certainly the first role I would have gone for.

    A prize? Dear Force, I hope not. The poor lady's going to go through enough with Ani the way it is.

    http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Matrix/7524/amiluvani2.gif ~Proud Member of the Official Anti-Triangle Society~ (such as it exists )

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  7. Darth Pipes

    Darth Pipes Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    JG

    Your a little harsh on Obi-Wan there. If Obi had told Luke the truth about Anakin in Ep 4, Luke would have run half***ed after Vader in order to rescue him. He would have been either slaugtered or turned to the Dark Side. I mean, Luke never truly knew his father in ROTJ and risked everything to save him. I think Obi gets too much critisism for the certain point of view thing. If anyone is to blame for that, it's GL.
     
  8. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    I know Kenobi couldn't tell the truth right away, and I don't hold him morally culpable for Anakin's choices, but his own were bizarre as well -- he chose a deliberately inflammatory "point of view," and pushed it to try and get Luke to kill Anakin. Maybe he's more subtle than I'm giving him credit for, and he was actually using reverse psychology to get Luke to try the other approach.

    Oh, no triangle if I were over there. I'd never steal him from Amidala, I just wanted to be Amidala. I'm glad that we kept her in "The Penitent" (originally, it was an alternate universe from FH and the Encounters) -- in my original idea, he met a young girl close to his age (the original version of Zemai Laryhi, actually), and later fell in love with her, but it just wasn't working. She was an outsider that way.
     
  9. Darth Pipes

    Darth Pipes Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's fair enough JG. I'll admit even after Luke discovers the truth, Obi still insists that in a way he didn't lie.

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  10. ami-padme

    ami-padme Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    LOL at A21's death match...I do the best I can...

    For the record, I think McGregor is HOT and I do think JG's being a little harsh with Obi-Wan ...and I still don't want any kind of triangle. I think the fact that I do really like Obi-Wan makes me more against it. I don't want to walk away from the prequels saying, "Well, if Obi-wan hadn't messed around with his wife, none of this would have happened!" Yuck.
     
  11. Marie D Padawannabe

    Marie D Padawannabe Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Originally posted by ami-padme:
    . I think the fact that I do really like Obi-Wan makes me more against it. I don't want to walk away from the prequels saying, "Well, if Obi-wan hadn't messed around with his wife, none of this would have happened!" Yuck.

    Seems to..."All my Children" don't it?! LOL!
    As nice and pretty as Amidala is, I don't
    think that Ani's loosing her to Obi-Wan
    would push him into Vader's Mask. Then again,
    who knows!? It might lead him in
    that direction (should it happen) but I
    don't see it as the MAIN cause.

    Plus, we haven't even seen grown-up Anakin
    and Amidala together yet! They could be really cute, or really awful...we have no clue! All we see (ok, all I see) is Natalie
    Portman, Ewan and Jake! If that's the case
    then YES we can all see her with Obi-Wan
    because...really..dating a nine-year old
    is just wrong ( aside from other things!).

    I am speaking for myself here! Sigh...only
    2 more years to wait it out...(I know, a few
    months for us spoiler *****s who will be
    all over the pics like flies on...uh..)

    Marie
    feeling very tired from her flight from hell


     
  12. ami-padme

    ami-padme Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Seems to..."All my Children" don't it?! LOL!

    Speaking as someone who used to watch and enjoy soaps quite a bit , YES, it would be way to soapy for Star Wars. A good chunk of Ep. II devoted to a "will they or won't they" type thing with Amidala and Obi-Wan. And don't forget all the wonderful "drama" we'll get as we wait for "the moment of truth" when Anakin finally finds out...gag.

    Also, I doubt very much that the story could be written in such a way that Anakin could lose his wife (the girl he's been in love with since age nine) to his master (the man who has raised him from age nine), and it will just be a "minor push" to the Dark Side. This is big time stuff, even if the triangle is merely an implied one. Anakin, like 99% of people in that situation, will probably go bezerk. Obviously, I agree with those who don't want the triangle to be the major factor in Anakin's fall -- I just don't think it could be done otherwise (yuck). JMHO.

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  13. Alderaan21

    Alderaan21 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Fair enough, JG.

    Originally posted by Marie D Padawannabe:
    Plus, we haven't even seen grown-up Anakin
    and Amidala together yet! They could be really cute, or really awful...we have no clue! All we see (ok, all I see) is Natalie
    Portman, Ewan and Jake! If that's the case
    then YES we can all see her with Obi-Wan
    because...really...dating a nine-year old
    is just wrong ( aside from other things!).


    (Actually, if it was the case, I STILL wouldn't want her w/Obi! It's just wrong to me!) True enough-- but even if 20-year old Anakin was uglier than Ewan in a disco porn flick (naturally I hope not), I'd probably still prefer him over Obi for Ami. For the simple fact that they do get married and are the parents of Luke and Leia, is a MAJOR reason I advocate their relationship without any sort of Obi-affections aside. Anyway, Anakin will have to be portrayed as a character understandable for Amidala to fall in love with-- otherwise most of us will think her a total idiot for it; their romance will have to be good. And considering how well-done the Han & Leia thing was, I don't think there should be much worry over whether the romance will suck. If the romance with them did suck, that's kind of defeating its role in this trilogy-- so again, I'm not worried.

    In a way my reasoning on Obi is similar to a-p's. Occasionally I will find Obi cute, but 90% of the time I gag at the sight of him, though that's beside the point. I didn't really much care about his character in the OT. Now that I'm getting a glimpse of his past (even though he was as much of a punk in TPM as many say Ani was), I'm starting to warm up to the OT character a bit. If a triangle were to happen, a good deal of any respect I had for the character would follow his apprentice into that lava pit.
     
  14. Marie D Padawannabe

    Marie D Padawannabe Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Just wanted everyone to know that I am
    working on a sequel to this one! It should
    reach all of you by the weekend. I was afraid
    of writing more, since sequels can often..well..end up as bantha poodoo! So,
    we'll see what happens!

    Marie
     
  15. ami-padme

    ami-padme Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    More? More did you speak?

    Cool. Can't wait to read it!
     
  16. Alpha_Ferdante

    Alpha_Ferdante Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Glad to see this story made it to TFN forum!

    I read this on FanFiction.NET just a few days ago.

    Like most others in this thread, I find the lack of Anakin/Amidala romances to be a shame. But it does stand to reason. Let's face it, their romance will not end well with Anakin turning to the Dark Side.

    Many of the love triangle proponents think that the only way Anakin would leave Amidala would be because of a love triangle scenario. Plus, they fancy the idea of Obi-Wan with Amidala, despite the reality of who Luke & Leia's father is.
     
  17. Jedi Droid

    Jedi Droid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Damned cute story. Damned cute couple.
    (Greetings from one comfortable in either corner of the swimmingpool.. if you get my point, A21 ..as long as it's tasteful, and PG.. )
    (Seriously, the OB1-p.o.v. discussion... anyone in here who didn't feel hurt as h*ll in -80? May an Original Fan point out that to some of us ESB was just a pretty rotten sequel where GL failed all important characters - Kenobi, Skywalker, Vader - each in his own way. Nah, guess I may not..)/JD
     
  18. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't know, JD -- as a fellow Original Fan, I thought that what was done in ESB for the characters what great! The very fact that it made me distrust Ben is part of why I think so. It gave Vader a heart, Ben a fault, and Luke a brain (sorry, but in ANH, I can just hear him doing that old Julie Brown song, "'Cause I'm a Blonde, B-L-O... oh, I don't know..."). ANH was fun, and it hooked me on movies in general, but it's the sequels that really made SW in particular stick for me.

    When I say I don't like Obi-Wan, I don't mean as a character; as a character, I think he's awesome. He'd just drive me buggy in real life. Basically because he always thinks he's right and is forever extrapolating on his reasoning for it... (Ummm, not that I know anyone like that, and I certainly don't see her in the mirror every morning when I do my hair. )

    For the record, I also can't imagine any other reason for Anakin to leave Amidala. For that matter, I can't imagine him leaving her over a triangle. I just plain can't imagine him leaving her voluntarily; I think she's a sacrifice he's forced to make in the course of his other choices, probably the hardest sacrifice. And that sacrifice won't be made by him leaving her -- it will be made by her having to leave him, probably for her own safety from Palpatine. I actually see them as still married in the OT (possibly he's widowed, but the marriage didn't end otherwise).
     
  19. Marie D Padawannabe

    Marie D Padawannabe Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Okay all...here is the PROLOGUE to the
    sequel! Please do not add to the story,
    I have a clear idea where this is going

    Starlight II: Angels 1/4 PROLOGUE
    by: Marie

    Rated: PG13; for language and situations
    Keywords: Amidala/Anakin Romance/Angst
    Archive: Sure, go ahead...just tell me where
    Category: Rise of the Emperor; Post TPM
    Disclaimer: No money made here...Characters are not mine

    Summary: Sequel to Starlight. Follows Anakin and Amidala
    as they struggle to get through life when Anakin is sent away
    on a mission with his Master.

    Notes: Thanks to everyone who read Starlight and gave me
    such positive feedback! This is for all of you who encouraged
    me to continue this story, and I hope you like it!

    Spoilers: This will spoil some parts of the Jedi Apprentice books,
    as Anakin reflects on his Master's past, so if you have not read them
    (and may I ask WHY NOT?) don't complain that I didn't warn ya!

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    Starlight II: Angels PROLOGUE

    -Anakin-

    'And through it all,
    she offers me protection.
    A lot of love and affection,
    whether I'm right or wrong'

    Ebaude System
    Sojourner IV Republic Cruiser

    If ever there was a planet so decimated and abused, it's Ebaude.
    The government, frustrated and lacking any form of leadership,
    has declared war on it's citizens. According to the native Ebaudians,
    a sacred area of land towards the center of Haalspeth, the capital,
    should be protected from greedy developers. This does sit well with
    the government whose pompus King wishes to erect a factory there.

    I wish I could be with you right now, just holding you close. While
    I am not alone, I really cannot cuddle up with my Master. I knew
    that would make you smile; I know you too well. Getting back
    on topic (I know how you hate it when I do this).

    Obi-Wan says that we are not to interfere, but I am torn. I spent
    the past two days moping around the ship after striking down a
    native animal and being, in effect, grounded by Obi-Wan. He says
    that I am too angry, that my attentions should be focused on helping
    and not destroying. Sometimes I think that he does not understand
    me at all, Ami.

    But you do, you always have. You reach out with those gentle
    hands of yours and bring me back to myself. I may be hard to handle,
    as you've said before, but I am trying. Honestly. I also do not mean
    to speak badly of Obi-Wan; He's been so patient with me all these
    years. I don't know how I'm ever going to handle having a padawan
    of my own! There's so much to learn yet still, I feel like I'll never learn
    it all!

    So, as the sun is now arising, I look up at the stars and think of you.
    Hopefully we will be of Ebaude soon, negotiations are set for later
    today. Until then, keep that bed of yours warm for me...I will be back
    soon.

    I love you,
    Ani

    .................................................................................................

    -Amidala-

    Dear Ani,

    I am aware of the conflict on Ebaude, and I, too, wish there was
    something to be done. Chancellor Palpatine fears that the government
    there may be overthrown if they continue like they have. This worries
    me, but there is nothing to be done. One thing every good leader knows
    is that she (or he) must have respect for their people in order to earn
    respect from them. My mother taught me this when I was a girl, and
    I've never forgotten.

    So, you've been hunting wild animals? Must be all that male
    aggression. Yes, I know that you will get me for that one. What
    do expect to happen after six months of no sex? I can't believe that
    you've been gone that long, it's nearly time for your birhthday! You
    better get here soon, because I want my little boy here to celebrate.

    I'm sorry that things aren't working out between you and Obi-Wan.
    We all hit hard times now and again with our friends, and I'm certain
    that you will work it out. Sabé and Eirtaé say 'Hi', they've been with
    me all the time lately. I think that they believe I will go mad if left alone.
    Perhaps they are right, life around here is so mundane when yo
     
  20. ami-padme

    ami-padme Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Woo-hoo! More story!

    I like the idea of telling the story through letters. I hope to see more soon!
     
  21. Jedi Droid

    Jedi Droid Jedi Youngling star 1

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    One difference between us, JG, might be characterised as that you're in love with the Ep 5-6 Tragic Hero, while I would respect the Ep 4 sarcastic, quick-witted and damned cool Commander if he was my boss.....
    I could join the Imperial Navy, but never the DVEB...
    Luved your green smiley btw. /JD
     
  22. JediGaladriel

    JediGaladriel Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Oh, I loved the sarcastic dude from ANH, too. Best cheer in the house on "I find your lack of faith... disturbing." He's like Han with a few years of charm school to mask it. I just don't see any particular discontinuity. That's what was on the surface for anyone to see; the rest was what was under the surface, for only those who got close enough to see.

    I've gotten pretty used to the DVEB... but I'll never get used to some of those stories. They're running a poll, btw, on what Vader's lifestyle might have been -- http://dmeb.net/dveb http://dmeb.net/dveb

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  23. Rogue36

    Rogue36 Jedi Youngling

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    BRING IT ON!
     
  24. FLEANATION_PRODUCTIONS 55

    FLEANATION_PRODUCTIONS 55 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You needant wait any longer. Very shortly FLEANATION PRODUCTIONS "Stupid Stuff: Episode V: Immaturity Strikes Back" will be released. ALthough the movie has the Episode V title, it still plays a lot of spoofs on all the Star Wars movies. From Hope to Phantom, you'll see it all as it's interpretted by a group of immature 17 year olds. THe movie is also pretty effects heavy, so you can look forward to some cool visuals too.
     
  25. Xander28

    Xander28 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Well I am about to go into production on my Episode One spoof......but it probably will not be done until October.

    HOPEFULLY it will be worth the wait...but this is my first one!

    Patrick
     
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