Amph Steven Erikson - The Malazan Book of the Fallen

I got bored of his 'I'm invincible' shtick pretty quick though.

 

I think he loses that in his travels and experiences....There are some good conversations in The Bonehunters, with Samar Dev, that show he has grown a little....and he was rocked at the end of Toll The Hounds.

 

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That about sums it up...

 

^this is me reading the last ~100 pages or so of deadhouse gates

 

DG was my favorite book in the series....but heartbreaking.

It was also one of the most important novels, in that the Bonehunters were trying to live up to the 7th for the rest of the series.

 

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ive barely started the karsa orlong parts of house of chains and im already quite excited for the prospect of a sequel trilogy based around him (as erikson has previously hinted). honestly, its more exciting to me than the idea of a tiste trilogy, but maybe that's because ive barely seen the tiste edur and the tiste liosan at this point

i have no idea why anyone would be put off the books by him. so far the whole thing is basically a farce. we're meant to be laughing at karsa's brutality and arrogance and ultimate inability to live up to his own standards. like his whole fedora attitude to dayliss only to have it hilariously revealed (to the reader by his patron gods, no less) that the other dude's already impregnated her and won her favor. also karsa's sort of petulence and brattiness towards his father is hysterical ("so i am to walk then?"). its like bauchelain and korbal broach in the last book, but played a bit more subtly. its brilliant satire of the sword and sorcery genre, and i love it

 

Well, sad to say, but, overall, would have to class Assail as quite disappointing.

Hopefully Erikson can revive things with the Kharkanas trilogy.

 

Best order to read Erikson and Esslemont in? Not bothering with the novellas or Forge of Darkness yet. The library has ordered new copies of GOTM and DG, but will have to order the rest.

 

That's a tough one, there's several guides on the net you could seek out.

 

I know the main books are pretty much chronological save for Midnight Tides and I know where Night of Knives/Return of the Crimson Guard fall, but no idea where Esslemont's last four books fall with TTH/DOD/TCG.

 

It ain't easy, you could try using this one:

http://thewertzone.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/updated-malazan-reading-order-and-map.html

 

We have a cover, encouraging:

 

encouraging because you were worried it would be too long a wait or encouraging because its a good cover?

i think erikson has a deece track-record on publishing right? i mean he put out that scifi book earlier this year so its not surprising we've had a bit of a wait between malazan material

 

upping for Point Given to give us his impressions. maybe dont actually read the thread yet tho as it is spoilery

 

yay, now you get to read book three. which, at times, is the stronger of the two. i go back and forth in my assessment of them. i think the main thing is that the chain of dogs plotline by itself is so towering that its hard to beat but Memories of Ice is the stronger book overall.

did you tear your hair out in horror and anguish during the scene where coltaine was crucified and the sorceror was swatting away the crows coming for his soul? that scene is so ****ing intense. i re-read it the other night because of this conversation

 

DG is still may favorite book in the series. Heartbreaking and awesome. The part where Temul thought Coltaine was sending him away, not realizing Coltaine was grooming him to lead was just sad....

 

this conversation has me picking the book back up and trying to look for scenes that people describe. i can't find this one but while i was looking for it i stumbled across the scene where the Trygalle Trade Guild shows up out of the warrens and saves their bacon. the chain of dogs is so well crafted and punctuated with little rewards like that breaking up the grueling despair

 

It was told through Duiker's viewpoint..when Coltaine sent the refugees ahead

 

yeah, it should be after the part where the desert warriors swoop in to help fight Dom and afterwards declare the Wickans to be the best fighters. and it should obviously be before duiker and co reach the city. but i skimmed around in that part of the book and didn't find it. ill look again later

 

interesting rando blog article about how ICE and SE logically arrived at a gender egalitarian but nonetheless medieval world by examining the effect that the widespread practice of healing magic would have on a society's development