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ST Story wise: Do we really need a Sequel Trilogy

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by ray243, Jun 9, 2014.

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  1. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    there has to be some kind of threat.
     
  2. deneuves

    deneuves Jedi Knight star 4

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    If they do use it, it'll probably be on some random system no one cares about. More likely it'll just be a "close call" situation like that infinity stone in Guardians of the Galaxy.
     
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  3. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    or the coruscant system. [face_devil]
     
  4. RC-2473

    RC-2473 Jedi Master star 4

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    of course but as me and deneuves have been discussing it doesn't need to be almost comically huge (i.e. 'bigger than before!!') to be threatening.

    I think a close call situation is most likely 'cause han blows it up and what a way to go eh?

    also it's just too convenient when they do it on a 'random system' (billions/trillions dead but don't feel too sad 'cause none of them are important!!) and even in the original film I felt that was executed in a kind of weird way. not just 'cause of that though it's like they're saying 'look at this huge threat but no where you care about will have to deal with it'.
     
  5. redlightning

    redlightning Jedi Knight star 4

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    What does this weapon do to destroy a star system? Does it create a supernova, taction pulse, black hole, reverse gravity?
     
  6. deneuves

    deneuves Jedi Knight star 4

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    Hopefully it just blows it up. Black hole is what they did in Star Trek (2009), but wouldn't be that shocked if JJ repeated himself.
     
  7. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    Naboo.... please be Naboo! ;)
     
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  8. vin

    vin Chosen One star 6

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    Well it is called Starkiller Base. I would assume they would destroy the star which in turn would kill off all planets in its system.
     
  9. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    Questions.

    If the star is destroyed, would the planets in the system feel the effects instantly, or would there be a period of time to evacuate before the inhabited planets die?

    If there's no star, how would it effect the orbit of the planets, as the gravity from the missing star would now be absent?

    By destroying the star at the centre of a system, does it kill the entire system instantly, or is there time to evacuate I guess is my main question.
     
  10. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    I've kind of only skim read spoilers past the first third of the film, so I know some broad things but no more than that, so some of this may be way off, but in response to @StoneRiver's question, is there a possibility that the battle station is used on the star at the centre of whatever system Luke is on, and that Luke is actually evacuated from exile?
     
  11. Strongbow

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    Depends on HOW the star is destroyed, of course. If the star just burns out, then yeah, evacuations. If the weapon causes the star to go nova? Then that will not buff out.
     
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  12. StoneRiver

    StoneRiver Force Ghost star 4

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    Interesting, but it would depend on whether the heroes find Luke on Skellig, or whether Luke leads the heroes to Skellig after he evacuates whatever system. As they revisit Skellig in EPVIII, we can safely presume the Skellig planet has not been destroyed/killed.

    If the MSW spoilers are to be trusted, then it doesn't luke like that is possible. ;)

    Thanks Strongbow, I wonder if we will witness the destruction of the star in EPVII? Which would then show how the star is destroyed. I guess that's the only way I'll get the in-universe answers to my questions.

    Refugees could be an interesting subplot during the ST if it doesn't kill the planets instantly. But then I suppose the threat of this weapon, even though it's killing entire systems and countless lifeforms, won't be thought of as worse than the Death Star as it gives the lifeforms a chance of escape.
     
  13. Darth_Voider

    Darth_Voider Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Gravitational changes can't affect a distant celestial body immediately. That would be against Einsteins rule that nothing can be faster than light. Light needs 8 minutes from Sun to Earth, so if - hypothetically - our sun is removed, the Earth will still follow it's orbit for 8 minutes, then it will leave the solar system.

    Even if we had the technology that is presented in Star Wars, this is not enough time to evacuate the planet.

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  14. darthtimetraveller

    darthtimetraveller Jedi Knight star 3

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    What if they use it and it does create a black hole or dimensional rift of some kind that leads to an alternate universe where the Darkside has ultimately defeated the Light, and this is how the Big Bad of the ST arrives?! Or maybe it creates a darkside dimensional rift that leads to the welllspring of the darkside and allows evil force beings to enter the GFFA!
     
  15. littlewaves

    littlewaves Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    sounds very Doctor Who! That guy opens parallel Universes every other season.
     
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  16. darthtimetraveller

    darthtimetraveller Jedi Knight star 3

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    LOL that's one sci-fi series i've never seen. Is it any good?
     
  17. littlewaves

    littlewaves Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I like it on and off. Not to everyone's taste. Very different to most other mainstream sci-fi. Very campy/quirky which I like.
     
  18. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm sure there's an actual answer to this question that an astrophysicist could tell you, but my guess is, at best, you have minutes to get off planet. I assume the sun being winked out would cause gravitational havoc on the planet. Earth quakes, volcanos, floods, tsunamis, things like that. I suppose if you survive that, then the timeframe becomes a matter of days

    Just pure guessing though.
     
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  19. D'an

    D'an Jedi Master star 4

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    It's actually a logical progression. 30 years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Inter-Continental Ballistic Missiles were basically capable of destroying our entire planet.
     
  20. Tugann_An_Solas

    Tugann_An_Solas Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Still have to pinch myself at the thought of sitting in a theater watching a new star wars movie!!
    Of coarse we need a sequel trilogy

    :D
     
  21. JediLight

    JediLight Force Ghost star 4

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    I keep seeing this thread and I feel like I have commented before, but figured I would do it again.

    I think most SW fans were pretty satisfied with the upbeat ending after ROTJ (even if ROTJ had it's flaws, ewoks, repetitive story -DS2-). It was a great way to let the characters go into the sunset. Of course the books had more tales to tell, but I ignored post ROTJ EU.

    I didn't want the Emperor to be cloned. I didn't want Luke to get married. I didn't want to see Chewbacca or any other likable character for that matter die.

    Well this sequel trilogy changes everything. I've come to terms that the Big 3 will all die at some point. There is no harmony. There is no sunset.

    This trilogy will break our hearts so hopefully it's all worth it. If they can create new characters to root for and to embrace then it will be worth it because we'll have new stories to enjoy.
     
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  22. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    need: no
    would like: absolutely!

    I feel like it was just yesterday that we were discussing the sequel trilogy that never was.
     
  23. darthtimetraveller

    darthtimetraveller Jedi Knight star 3

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    What exactly would happen would depend on the nature of the effect of the particular weapon on the star in question, as well as the size of the star and the distance of the world from it's parent sun. Does the weapon cause the star to implode or collapse in on itself, thus creating a black hole, assuming the star had enough original mass to begin with? Or does it cause the star to go supernova and basically explode outward, ultimately creating nebulae? Or does it drain the star's fuel leaving it more-or-less a dead star remnant, black dwarf, or neutron star? It would depend. It takes light roughly 8 mins to reach earth remember. According to SR, nothing moves naturally faster than light, not even the effects of gravity apparently. There are theories though.
     
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  24. Toxic Spider

    Toxic Spider Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Storywise, we don't "need" anything past the original Star Wars. The only loose end Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi tied up was Darth Vader surviving.

    Stories don't don't have to be "necessary" to be interesting or worthwhile.
     
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  25. Rookhelm

    Rookhelm Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess that means, then, worst case scenario you'd have 8 minutes to get out of there...assuming that a particular habitable planet is roughly 1 AU distance from a sun similar to ours.
     
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