Saga Suspension of disbelief

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Oberst Hans Landa, Mar 1, 2014.

  1. squir1y Force Ghost

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    Obi-Wan plunges from the side of Tipoca City, unravels Jango's ripcord from his wrists, tosses it and it wraps around a beam and stops his fall. Granted, the abrupt stop would have ripped the Jedi's arms from his sockets, but when that was pointed out to me, my only response was: If it did, it would have ruined the movie. Some people just can't except that answer. Also you can't hear explosions, lasers, engines, seismic charges or you screaming in space, but the answer to that is simple: no one wants to watch a mute space battle! Logistics are for reality, not fantasy!
  2. Oberst Hans Landa Jedi Grand Master

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    Chewbacca has no dandruff. [face_dunno]
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  3. squir1y Force Ghost

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    He uses Head and Shoulders and Everything in Between for Wookiees. It works but you don't wanna see the drain stopper in the Falcon's fresher. Ewww...
  4. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    The only excuse: It's Star Wars!
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  5. Tornado Wrangler Jedi Master

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    We get the cue that things are going to be different from reality right from the get go with the "galaxy far far away" thing. I don't think that "suspension of disbelief" really applies to fantasy. It's supposed to be unrealistic; that's what makes it fantasy. You don't have to suspend your disbelief because its not supposed to be believable.

    But as stated in the opening post, that doesn't mean the writers and filmmakers can do whatever they want and still have it be a good story. While the fantasy-universe doesn't have to be realistic, it does need to be internally consistent and logical. That is the fault that often plagues fantasy storytelling, including Star Wars at times
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  6. Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus

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  7. scooper121s Jedi Master

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    Stormtrooper Armour being so weak

    Yoda lived to be EXACTLY 900 years old

    The Jedi order was killed off like little bitches
  8. SarlacsDinerParty Jedi Knight

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    I agree With DS here !! Most of what happens makes sense inside the framework.
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  9. Ittoogami Jedi Padawan

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    I can suspend my disbelief a lot, but one major point in the series were it is a bit too much is the ewok battle. They made the little fellows look like just too weak. I mean at least they could have given them some battle swords, obsidian knifes or whatever, but I can't see around that with those sticks and their little range there is no chance they would get through an storm trooper armor.
  10. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Sticks couldn't unless you get in between the joints or knock the helmets off. Dropping rocks on their heads will stop anyone. Using logs against the AT-ST's and having one that was commandeered by a Wookiee also helps.
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  11. Ananta Chetan Force Ghost

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  12. Oberst Hans Landa Jedi Grand Master

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  13. Cryogenic Chosen One

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    I don't think there's much, actually. I mean, it's interlocking strands of weirdness -- tell me, how can I extract one from the other?

    That said, flying into that asteroid-dwelling creature in TESB, then walking around in its esophagus / gut, is pretty out-there.

    Mind you, scale mirrors are everywhere in Star Wars. Big becomes small, small becomes big.

    Jar Jar is strange creature / tonal aberration No. 2. I guess TPM takes a lot of cues from TESB.

    We don't get to go inside Jar Jar's digestive system, though.

    Though, again, scale mirrors. [:D] [face_party] [face_peace] [face_whistling]
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  14. DRush76 Force Ghost

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    You found this hard to believe, considering how their demise was set up? I found the idea of Anakin hunting down each Jedi, one by one, hard to swallow.
  15. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    That Palpatine could kill the 3 Jedi in ROTS in 10-15 seconds.
    2 of them didn't even do anything.
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  16. Cushing's Admirer Chosen One

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    They weren't given time to. Most of how that was done was to show how powerful Sidious was in Darkness and how ill-prepared/unsuspecting the Jedi were, anyway.
  17. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    I know Palpatine is extremely skilled and all that jazz and the Jedi were unprepared and all that but that was too much.
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  18. Lt.Cmdr.Thrawn The Another Saga & CT Manager

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    Actually, Battlestar Galactica and Gravity both have pretty awesome action scenes (of differing kinds) taking place with no sound. However, I do agree that if TIE fighters and the Falcon didn't make their respective sounds, there would definitely be a sensibility that would be lost.
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  19. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Tell that to Superman and the Flash.
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  20. I Are The Internets Chosen One

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    There is no sound in space!

    /thread
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  21. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    I forgot about Anakin building C-3PO and Yoda being best buddies with Yoda.
  22. Bob Octa Jedi Grand Master

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    Not a damn thing.

    However, if the Force, destiny, and otherworldly physics weren't tangible, important, and vital components of the saga then sure, there'd be quite a number of events I wouldn't be able to suspend disbelief for. But then it wouldn't be Star Wars.
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  23. The_Phantom_Calamari Force Ghost

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    Yoda would have to become pretty good friends with himself, living alone on Dagobah for 20+ years. ;)
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  24. Garrett Atkins Jedi Grand Master

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    Whoops, Chewbacca, lel.
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  25. Darth Dnej Jedi Master

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    Well there's quite a bit of times where I suspend disbelief. These examples come to mind:
    • The Vote of No Confidence
    • Obi-Wan not using Force Speed to catch up to Darth Maul and Qui-Gon
    • Darth Maul being stupid and arrogant enough to let Obi-Wan hop up and cut him in half
    • Padme's disturbingly calm reaction to Anakin's Tusken Raider slaughter
    • The Jedi being stupid enough to use an unauthorized army from a conspiracy
    • Obi-Wan being taken out by Dooku and sustaining no serious injuries after being crushed by a balcony
    • The Horrendous Fighting Skills of Agen Kolar, Saesee Tinn, and Kit Fisto against Darth Sidious
    • Padme being shocked completely about Anakin's turn to the dark side
    • Obi-Wan lying so much to Luke
    • The Ewoks and the small rebel force defeating the Empire
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