Full Series SW Movie Saga Quotes in Rebels

Clearly.

Honestly, I can see the issue but the examples OP used aren't very good. Quotes about fear, hate, and anger aren't just specific to Yoda... that's kinda the overall theme of the dark side.

 

LOL --- fair enough ---- if a mod is concerned about the thread title, then instead of locking, I'd appreciate it be changed to "SW Movie Saga Quote Re-Usage in Rebels"

So "I haven't sensed a presence like that since............" and "That's it, the Rebels are there!!!!" aren't very good examples?

 

No, but Yoda is the Iconic Mouth Piece when it comes to preaching his Era's take on the Force. So I can understand some issue with that case.

 

Have they said in show

I have a bad feeling about this?

TCW had the same problem if you look for it but most of them fit with what was being said at the time.

 

Pretty sure they have, and we already discussed that this is probably one of only a few lines from the OT/PT that can be re-used fairly. Another example is "May the Force Be With You" ---- that is universal enough to be fair game.

 

SO to you they can use any lines from the movies except those two?

 

The one that gets me every time is Kanan saying "The Force is everywhere. It surrounds us. It penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together" in Spark of Rebellion. He is directly quoting something that Obi-wan Kenobi hasn't even said yet (and even if he had already said it, Kanan wouldn't know).That definitely made me cringe.

 

Although that means the OT is ripping off lines from rebels chronologically speaking.

 

Um, JKF....please read more carefully. Those two lines are two of the only lines that CAN fairly and non-confusingly be re-used throughout the series.

 

Sorry I read that right what I meant to say is those are the only to lines that you think should be used from the PT and OT

 

JKF ---- that is one of the main points of this thread. That re-usage of lines from the OT diminishes the future chronological usage of those lines by major characters in the movies.

Those are the two that come to mind at the moment that are the least confusing and least disruptive to the chronological canon storyline. There may be others, and maybe others will chime in with some.

 

Think of it this way if you could work on star wars would you not use a movie line here and there other then those two.

 

No, really, I wouldn't, because I would know just how confusing that is to the well-versed fan, and how it could take a brilliant line from a prior film and cheapen it. There are a lot of ways to say things and a lot of words in the English language. Why have two different characters in two different time periods say the exact same thing (beyond such universal expressions like "may the force be with you" and in-the-know fan jokes like "I have a bad feeling about this)? If I worked for Star Wars, I'd have my characters say new, fresh dialogue lines and would, if I was a talented enough writer, be lucky enough to have those lines become NEW classics in the star wars canon saga.

 

I see your points but I don't think having lines would cheapen them IMO

and I would think it the opposite confusing to non well versed fans.

 

Well, non-well versed fans wouldn't even know the difference ---- they'd just attribute the clever line to the Rebels character and Rebels screenwriters, robbing the original screenwriters of their credit and OT characters of their moment later in the saga.

Well-versed fans would recognize the line and either a) not care or b) wonder why that character is saying that line decades before another character does

 

To me its pretty simple to see it as a call back to the films to the knowing fans and I think I am B.

 

Yep, point taken. My apologies to anyone who I have offended. Certain lines were crossed and that's on me.

 

I can agree that there are some lines that are badly used and some really funny ones

Funny

Coincidence I think not.

 

You may very well think so... I couldn't possibly comment.

 

Well, it is for sure debatable whether those re-use of movie quotes is a good thing or not. I think it depends on the situation. That Kanan re-used Yodas quote in the series premiere was even for me a bit too far, but I don't see why it would weaken Yodas line in TESB.

In a galaxy with trillions of sentient beings and a history that spans over thousands of generations (at least in Legends), it is entirely possible that person A speaks a line that was spoken by person B somewhere in the past.

 

Saxman has made a thread without a mention of Filoni.He's improving.

 

Todd the Jedi --- will do, and my apologies for the recent hyperbole towards Filoni and dead horse beating I've been responsible for. Will hold off on the thread making for awhile and will make sure that the next one I make is either positive or neutral in tone for a change

I can't think of anytime in the OT that was guilty of this, beyond Han and Leia each doing the "I love you" "I know" thing in two different films, which worked since it was their own little inside love proclamation / exchange.

The PT did do this at points (like Anakin going "Here's where the fun begins" and Palpatine going "Search your feelings.....you know.........", both in Episode III interestingly --- I'm not sure if Episodes 1 or 2 had many re-uses / ripoffs), and that doesn't necessarily make it OK for Rebels to do, because be it PT or Rebels, there are cases where re-using old OT lines feels confusing to and risks cheapening a potentially brilliant quote.

Sure,

Sure, that's true, but when it happens a bunch of times among the same characters in a not-so-long timeframe, it can't really be written off as coincidence --- it comes off more as the screenwriter shoehorning in language and phrases that were originally intended for other characters and other circumstances as opposed to seeming like what the character at hand would actually say.

Would both Kanan and Vader "sense a presence they haven't felt since................" and say it in the exact same way, and in the same storyline, both Anakin Skywalker and Han Solo both say "This is where the fun begins!"? Feels more like heavyhanded screenwriter shoehorning, for who knows what reason, instead of genuine dialogue for the character that re-used the phrase (Kanan and Anakin in these instances).

LOL --- see? I am learning to practice some restraint on here It only took about 30 pages over 3 threads.

 

Unless Im very much mistaken Kanan actually says :"I haven't felt a presence like that since".....What do you want him to say?

 

He also quotes Yoda's "Do or do not, there is no try" and admits he doesn't entirely understand it either when Ezra complains.