Lit Sword of the Jedi by Christie Golden

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Todd the Jedi, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. mattman8907 Jedi Grand Master

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    i wouldn't mind if oh say the last 14 years of EU were erased.
  2. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    My opinion on the subject was basically summarized in my reboot essay on my blog.

    Short version: "The EU is pretty filled in about the movie characters. We know what they do before the movies, during, and after until they're in their eighties or dead. The stories are done. Yet, the characters are so popular they should have more stories made about them. So why not follow their adventures in a new universe where they can make different choices."
  3. DigitalMessiah Chosen One

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    The only thing that would make me disagree with that is if there were non-movie characters whose lives and adventures I wanted to see continue. There no longer are.
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  4. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    Of course, if JJ Abrams decides to throw in a red-headed background character wife for Luke and kids for Leia--it could also mean the resurrection and restoration of the Solo kids.
  5. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    How did you jump from A to B in the above? What are you suggesting? Mara acted as a surrogacy for the Solo children? [face_thinking]
  6. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    Just saying it's entirely likely that new authors will use new characters.

    HOWEVER, if old authors get involved, it's equally likely they may reintroduce new ones.

    Also, JJ Abrams is prone to his fanservice.
  7. Tim Battershell Force Ghost

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    How do we know that any 'neo EU' will not go in the direction of the established EU? We don't!

    Also, just what proportion of the population actually buys and reads books these days? Judging by the number of outlets that have gone out of business since I started reading EU (first with SotME, then TTT and beyond) that number is declining - and has been for some time.
  8. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    It's harder to judge how the issue has changed given the shift to electronic reading and Amazon.com.
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  9. Tim Battershell Force Ghost

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    Electronic readers are a more recent development - as are computers/internet in a good many homes. The closure of many outlets started happening (over here) a good while before either came on the scene.
  10. Bib Fartuna Jedi Grand Master

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    Is that the main reason that the bricks & mortars shops have been closing, due to sexual deviancy?
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  11. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    Yes, which doesn't necessarily correlate that people are reading less.
  12. Alixen Force Ghost

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    I'm truly hoping to see Mara in some form (that isn't introduction, and a swift death shortly thereafter) in the ST. She, and perhaps the Solo Kids, are the only things I truly want to retain out of the EU going forwards. I accept that they may have to be left AU, however, and for new films I accept that. She is in pre-RotJ books anyway, so I can just rationalize she is off working for K and never got the Last Command. Or that in this reality she and Luke are simply ships that passed in the night, and her life expectancy rose significantly because of it. :p

    I'm hoping this book/series does come out. Always wanted a Jaina centric book.
  13. Revanfan1 Chosen One

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    Man, no news for so long. I'm losing hope. [face_plain]

    One thing, assuming this trilogy still gets released, that I hope they play up is the tragedy Jaina feels at having to kill Jacen. Simple things. Things that Denning never would've done but maybe Golden can accomplish. Things like a picture of Jacen and Jaina together sitting on a nightstand in Jaina and Jag's apartment, or the revelation that Jaina kept Jacen's lightsaber after Luke took it from him in LOTF. Have her have dreams about when she and Jacen were younger. One thing Denning did very well in Invincible was, right after (or was it right before?) Jacen's death, he inserted a scene from the Vong war where Jacen told Jaina that your loved ones never die as long as they're in your heart. Written a little better, even written by Allston, that scene would've been tear-inducing. Denning just doesn't have what it takes to write a tear-inducing scene (blast it, what am I saying, he used to; he did with Anakin's death). Something like that here, and I'd be very happy. Show that Jaina is sad.
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  14. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    Just another point to the list of plot points that weren't continued in the Post NJO.
    We should have gotten a SOTJ trilogy after NJO to answer the question of what the Sword is not after 15+ years later.
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  15. Team Padme Force Ghost

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    :( This trilogy had so much potential. Honestly, I really liked Golden's two FOTJ books (still have to read her first.) So I think I would've really enjoyed this! And especially since it was going to feature all the newer generation characters.
  16. Jainasolo101 Jedi Grand Master

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    So I went straight to the source and asked Christie Golden on her blog if she could give us anything on SOTJ. This is what she said:
    So...
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  17. Cynical_Ben Force Ghost

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    Yep, about what we expected. Whatever she's written is probably in hard lockdown until the Sequel Trilogy starts coming out.
  18. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Thanks for taking the initiative to ask! :) It's great she responded -- a lot of authors have been awfully reticent lately. At least when they say "I don't know," we can still hold out some hope for the current EU.
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  19. Darth Xalfrea Jedi Grand Master

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    Disappointing, but at least she responded and now that this isn't entirely scrapped yet.
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  20. Team Padme Force Ghost

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    At least we got something. I'm upset, because as you guys all know I was uber excited for this. But there's still always hope!
  21. Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost

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    I, on the other hand, am still uber excited for this to be canceled. If we can be spared three more books from an author who gave us three of the worst, terrible, most god-awful SW books of all time, then praise be to Disney.

    Seriously, the end of the EU is worth it if it means we don't get these books.
  22. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    And end on Crucible?
    Yeah, no.
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  23. Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost

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    I know that Denning is the big bad wolf around these forums, but I found Golden's FOTJ books to be far, far worse. There's just no quality control these days.
  24. CommanderDrenn Jedi Grand Master

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    Exactly.
  25. DarthSanctimonious Force Ghost

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    I can't speak for everyone, but a couple years ago, I remember being glad that the post-RotJ EU wouldn't end with that abortion called Invincible.

    Remember how that turned out?