T-shirts (I know that it is still a little early...)

Discussion in 'Cleveland, OH' started by JarJarJedi, Aug 12, 2002.

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  1. JarJarJedi Jedi Master

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    Like I said before (I think) it is a one time cost of $70, so then we could get more colors later if we wish, and we wouldn't have to pay again for the screen.

    Oh, and I forgot to mention that the shirts are 50% pre-shrunk.
  2. Darth-Zod Jedi Master

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    But I want 100% pre-shrunk. :_|
  3. Krash RSA Emeritus

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    50% per-shrunk is better then 0% pre-shrunk, so that's not too bad. This is still the best offer we've got going.

    So they'll have our artwork if we ever wanted to make more? That sounds like a good idea. Did you show them the 2 images we want to have? And they can(?) do multiple color shirts with the same stuff on them...white on (blue/black/red/grey)?

    I don't see a problem allocating $15 out of the profits to go towards the domain name. I would like to discuss that at the next meeting. Worst case, I'll put up the $15 for this year (just to get us started) my "do-gooder" nature wants anything we have to go towards these charities.
  4. Darth-Zod Jedi Master

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    I was just being silly. ;)
  5. Padawan92 Jedi Padawan

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    As long as I get one with the logo. I don't care what color or anything like that. I just want on.
  6. Jedi_BMack Jedi Padawan

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    I'll be seeing the members of my organization tonight that I designed a tshirt for. I'll check on prices, but we did only one color. it was front and back though.

    I'll just get the guy's number. What rates should I be asking for? Front/back, one/two/three color? Krash throw this my way... The color shirt might be three color unless I can finagle it another way. I'll check.

    -b-
  7. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    B and I were tossing around shirt ideas... I suggested being we are the Jedi Knights Of Cleveland that the shirt be blue, green, or purple. He's partial to the red. I suggest we give people the option of choosing between the four colors. We were also adding quotes on the back of the shirts jokingly. But like a Qui-Gon quote could go on the green one, a Mace Windu on the purple, an Obi-Wan or Anakin quote on the blue, etc. I think these would both be cool ideas to implement. B- when you get a chance, if you could somehow post the design in the 4 different colors for the others like you showed me, I think that would be great.
  8. Padawan92 Jedi Padawan

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    But can we use quotes from the characters that are copyrighted.
  9. Krash RSA Emeritus

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    Brian,
    For the sake of cost...and simplicity...here's what we've been thinking of:

    Front/Back (Anrev's lightsaber image- Front, Your JKOC logo - Back) With "The Force of the Northcoast" on the back

    One color (white or black) which ever looks better.

    Multiple colors blue/green/black/grey/red? Whatever looks best/available.

    Shirts - pre-shrunk? sizes?

    Get some estimates, and report back here!
  10. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    I still think we should be allowed to have the option of one of four saber color shirts with the logo: green, blue, purple, and red. That way, people can kind of have a story behind their shirt. I can say I would have a green blade if I were a Jedi, thus my green shirt, whereas someone else might say, I really like Mace Windu, so I got the purple shirt. And you Sith tendencies people can be appeased with the red option. It makes it personal and fun. Come on people... you will join me or die! j/k. But I know B thought it was a good idea and he kind of sound interested in it. I still would like him to post the logo in the 4 colors like he showed me... I think they'd look cool on the four respective shirt colors (i.e. the purple rebel insignia would go on the purple shirt, etc, etc).
  11. _-Reborn_Jedi-_ Jedi Youngling

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    Red. With Darth Maul. 'Nuff said.
  12. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    To clarify my idea... I was thinking that within the "horseshoe" shape frame of B's logo it would be all white with black trim except for the Rebel insignia, which would be one of the four saber colors. Then outside the "horseshoe" shape of the frame, the color of the shirt would match the color of the insignia. I think it would look really cool like this.
  13. Jedi_BMack Jedi Padawan

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    Here are the tshirt ideas that Random and I were yakking about. It's basically a dupe of the post in the Cleveland Force Game thread.

    These are two color... black on white/ash whatever (or vise versa) with one accent color.

    red
    blue
    green
    purple (please disregard the text problem. The file turns on all the layer when it opens.

    then nifty little phrases on the back...

    -b-
  14. JarJarJedi Jedi Master

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    On Anrev's logo, there are a lot of colors. I was just getting the pricing on Brian's logo, the JKOC version on the front "pocket", and the Jedi Knights Of Cleveland version on the back, big.

    And I agree, isn't the quotes a little copyrited, since we are thinking of selling them.
  15. Krash RSA Emeritus

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    While the multi-color icons look really cool, for simplicity and COSTS (that's going to be expensive) let's focus on creating a simple T-shirt... a 1 color (either black or white) of Brian's logo on the back and Anrev's "pocket screen" image on the front...on a colored T-shirt (red,blue,green,ect)

    Again for simplicity sake, we were going to use our Fanforce's subtitle (decided when we first formed) of "The Force of the North Coast" on the back. Having individual quotes on the back of multiple color shirts is going to get expensive...and possible violate some copyright laws. Even if we make these for ourselves, we're selling them among ourselves; and I don't think we can get away with using copyrighted material, even among ourselves, without legal issues.

    "To clarify my idea" What clarity! What you're proposing is design and production of 3-5 different shirts...with different artwork...and different colors. That's is going to raise the price of this project beyond it being worthwhile for any of us to do this. YOU"RE MAKING THIS TOO BIG A PROJECT!
  16. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    Krash, what I am proposing is one shirt... available in 4 colors. And I was just tossing out the character quotes thing for fun. I think it'd be cool, but I don't really care about that. All I'm saying is I like B's one design, and it should be on all 4 colored shirts, so they'd all look the same, except for the color. I mean, I think The Force Of The North Coast would look cool on the back of all of them too. I just really think we should be allowed to choose what color shirt we want, I don't think that'd be more expensive if we all order the same shirt in different colors, would it? Perhaps I'll have to print up B's logo and show you what I mean at the meeting by doing a little diagram of my shirt layout. I mean, if on the front of the shirt we put B's logo, with the Rebel insignia "hollowed" out of it, then the color of the shirt would be in the insignia. Just please let me plead my case in person.
  17. Padawan92 Jedi Padawan

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    It still would be over the top. Can't there be maybe one or two colors. Do we really need one then a few colors. It's not like we need 4-5 different shirits!
  18. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    They're not different shirts people!!! They're the same shirt, in different colors!!! Besides, people generally LIKE options... I thought that color would give them some options. Why don't you people complain that all the Jedi and Sith don't have one same saber blade color preference? Why is it any different with the shirts? Your blade and handle of your saber reflects your style... why can't we make the shirts do that too? I mean, I dunno if it'd be the same price or not, but I'm guessing it'd be the same for one design in different colors, and if it's not any more expensive, why not give people choices?
  19. Krash RSA Emeritus

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    "I dunno if it'd be the same price or not, but I'm guessing it'd be the same for one design in different colors, and if it's not any more expensive, why not give people choices?"

    Options are a good thing... but designing different shirts (with qoutes matching the color) is going to get expensive. I've been looking inot this.

    As for the multiple-colored NR logo (brian's design) From what I know of printing, the more colors you use the more expensive it gets. So having a red/blue/green NR logo is going to be more expensive...then utilizing the black-on-white design (brian created) on different color shirts. Still allowing you to express your jedi/sith preference.

    If you read Cindy's report of the "Custom Sportswear Imprints" (CSI) offer...there is a extra charge for every color you use. I'm finding that alot of places charge more for the more colors you use.

    I'm not trying to limit your creativity, but we are limited on how much we are willing to spend. Plus, if everyone want to get something done in time for the soccer game. We have to come up with a simple idea that can be done quickly.
  20. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    Ok... you guys are misunderstanding me. I was just saying the quote thing was for fun. I don't care about that. We can have the Force Of The North Coast on all of the shirt backs for all I care. I proposed my idea to B last night... I manipulated his logos in Microsoft paint (very crappily I might add) to demonstrate to him my point. I think he understands what I'm talking about, whereas you guys don't. I like B's design as it is with the black on white. I just think we should cut out around the horseshoe shape and cut out the Rebel insignia piece so that it looks like a screen to put on a shirt. Then if we get blue, green, red, and purple shirts (all with TFOTNC on the back) and use THE SAME BLACK AND WHITE DESIGN ON ALL OF THEM, then everyone will have their own unique shirt, with the Rebel insignia inside matching the color of the shirt. I hope B can post my modifications, or perhaps take my idea for the modifications and make them look more presentable so you get my drift. Trust me people, my idea would not be more expensive than what you guys are saying. It just sounds like you were talking about having all black and white shirts with B's logo. As far as I can tell, I'm pretty sure my way would be no more expensive, but would give us options of different color shirts. Just wait to see what B posts with regard to my modifications.
  21. Jedi_BMack Jedi Padawan

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    OK, two things (including prices so hang on kids...)

    Random wants to use this image: [image=http://www.unipixonline.com/sw_images/tshirt_white.gif]
    With the following idea.

    Everything on the interior of the design will be either black or white as indicated in the design. The exterior of the design (outside the circle and text frame) would be cut away, as in a noraml screen print, and this whole design would be placed on multiple color shirts. This idea would still merit a 2 color screen. The black and the white over top of the whatever color.

    Anways, that idea aside for now, I just got off the phone with the folks in Kent at Premiere Screening. Here's the scoop.

    Setup per screen and per color is $18.00. For clarity, a two different one color screens on both sides of a shirt would be the same setup as a two color screen on one side.

    For a basic one color shirt like Krash has proposed, where x equals how ever many people want shirts, setup would be

    $36.00/x 12 people? $3.00...

    XL Fruit of the Loom, black screen/white shirt:

    10-19 shirts: $12.29 per shirt
    20-(next price point) shirts: $8.79 per shirt

    Add ~$1.00 for a BCT brand shirt instead of FOTL.
    Add ~$1.20 for white screen/black shirt.
    Add ~$1.40 for XXL shirt.

    I trust that most everyone can do their own math. Also, the more people, the less cash. We could feasibly be talking about 9.99+1.80 or $11.79 for 20 white on black shirts if all are XL. 20 people buying shirts is probably a bit optimistic for a first run, but hey, why not dream. I'll see if I can remember to wear a shirt they printed to the meeting.

    Turn around is at most 10 working days. And i can eamil him the designs.

    Gotta get back to work...

    -b-
  22. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    "Everything on the interior of the design will be either black or white as indicated in the design. The exterior of the design (outside the circle and text frame) would be cut away, as in a noraml screen print, and this whole design would be placed on multiple color shirts. This idea would still merit a 2 color screen. The black and the white over top of the whatever color. "

    Almost Brian... that's exactly right, except for in your comment "Everything on the interior of the design will be either black or white as indicated in the design" the only thing I was thinking differently is to have the Rebel Insignia cut away too, so that whatever the color of the shirt is, be it green, blue, red, or purple, would be exposed through the design, so that there would be a little bit of color "within" the design, although the color would not be part of the design itself. But thanks for helping to clarify my idea a lot. If you sign online later tonight and I am here, I will send you my new modification, which I made using the blank white template you put in your previous post to illustrate my point. It looks 10 times better than the modified pics I sent you last night. Once I give it to you, please post it so that everyone will get an accurate idea of what I am thinking of. That being said, don't rule out my idea til you see what I have in store people...
  23. Jedi_BMack Jedi Padawan

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    don't worry about it Random, I'll do the mod when i get home and post it. it's real simple like...

    -b-
  24. Darth-Zod Jedi Master

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    I have understood what you have been saying random. I just didn?t think I could explain it any better. It is possible to do the logo in one color. Picture the black in the logo above on the screen. Now, everywhere that you see white is cut away. Only the black is printed on the shirt. So if you have a red shirt, you will see red where the white is. If you choose a blue shirt, there will be blue where the white is in the logo.

    I have been through this before. When I was in college, I was put in charge of making our residence hall floor t-shirts. I will bring it to our next meeting as an example.
  25. TheRandomMenace Jedi Master

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    Actually Zod... you are somewhat correct too, but still off. Yes black would be on the shirt, but everything within the design would be white with the black trim, everything except for just the insignia. Once B posts the new mod I made, then you'll know what I'm talking about. Then you guys will all be like, "Ooh, sorry I was such an a$$, you're so brilliant Random" once you see what I have in mind and how cool it will look.
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